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Conscription in UK?

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giulia Fri 25-Feb-22 11:36:50

Any possibility of this? I ask because my daughter (41 and childless) getting worried. Here in Italy not a squeak, nor in the rest of Europe - or we'd have heard.

notgran Fri 25-Feb-22 12:10:40

I can't see that happening. There may be, if things get worse for the UK, a call for volunteers to join the Reserve Forces if the people have skills that are needed, e.g. medics, cyber, engineers, pilots but we are a long way off that. Conscripted military who don't want to serve their country will be impossible to train and too much of a distraction for the serving personnel.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 25-Feb-22 12:33:23

No I would not have thought so. Reserves will be first in any case.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 25-Feb-22 12:40:27

No. Increasingly battles will be fought using technology, not boots on the ground.

M0nica Fri 25-Feb-22 15:39:31

The last thing the armed forces want is a sudden influx of young un(military-skilled) youngsters with no knowledge or understanding about what they are meant to do. Army life now is about highly skilled highly trained operatives, not boots on the ground.

We have a territorial army and reservists. After that, if there were any kind of call up it would be selective conscription from those already trained in the specific skills required - those with cyber interference skills, electronics etc, probably mainly from military and aviation based companies

Kamiso Fri 25-Feb-22 15:42:25

Apparently it was something picked up on social media by lots of school children with no facts behind it at all.

giulia Fri 25-Feb-22 15:48:41

M0nica

The last thing the armed forces want is a sudden influx of young un(military-skilled) youngsters with no knowledge or understanding about what they are meant to do. Army life now is about highly skilled highly trained operatives, not boots on the ground.

We have a territorial army and reservists. After that, if there were any kind of call up it would be selective conscription from those already trained in the specific skills required - those with cyber interference skills, electronics etc, probably mainly from military and aviation based companies

My daughter is 41.

Blondiescot Fri 25-Feb-22 16:00:15

Highly unlikely. We have very good armed forces in this country, although with a pool of reservists and the Territorial Army to call upon if necessary too.

M0nica Fri 25-Feb-22 16:03:43

giulia was your daughter thinking she might be conscripted?

Those over 40 are generally considered to be over-conscription age, except in exceptional circumstances, which these aren't from a conscription point of view. When mass conscription occurs, it tends to be 18-25 years old first

As things stand at the present, unless she has rare and exceptional skills that would be desperatelyneeded in current circumstances, she probably would be considered too old even to volunteer with the territorial army.

Pittcity Fri 25-Feb-22 16:26:07

I don't think that this is even a remote possibility. I know the Navy has been increasing it numbers over recent years and has a large intake every week.

I don't think that a year of national service would do most youngsters any harm though.

notgran Fri 25-Feb-22 16:30:47

Pittcity

I don't think that this is even a remote possibility. I know the Navy has been increasing it numbers over recent years and has a large intake every week.

I don't think that a year of national service would do most youngsters any harm though.

I pity any Military Instructor attempting to get a youth who does not want to, do what he/she has been ordered to do. It isn't like 20+ years ago when you were bullied into submission.

M0nica Fri 25-Feb-22 16:42:50

Why should the armed forces take on the responsibility of dealing with disaffected youth and what good would one years square bashing do them.

If a years national service is thought necessary or advisable for school leavers why not treat them like a home based peace corps, going out and oing useful jobs in the community. - except that might put other people out of work.

Essentially it is an idea that cannot stand up to much scrutiny.

Kali2 Fri 25-Feb-22 16:45:24

Germanshepherdsmum

No. Increasingly battles will be fought using technology, not boots on the ground.

Do you actually think this will be better? Really?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 25-Feb-22 16:51:41

Kali2

Germanshepherdsmum

No. Increasingly battles will be fought using technology, not boots on the ground.

Do you actually think this will be better? Really?

Yes Kali2 drones and cyber warfare is far better than using the young men and sometimes women of any country as cannon fodder

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 25-Feb-22 16:51:44

Anything that reduces the number of armed forces being killed and maimed has to be better. Taking out a dictator with a drone operated by someone thousands of miles away, for instance.
The real future of warfare is probably cyber warfare though.

Callistemon21 Fri 25-Feb-22 16:56:21

M0nica

giulia was your daughter thinking she might be conscripted?

Those over 40 are generally considered to be over-conscription age, except in exceptional circumstances, which these aren't from a conscription point of view. When mass conscription occurs, it tends to be 18-25 years old first

As things stand at the present, unless she has rare and exceptional skills that would be desperatelyneeded in current circumstances, she probably would be considered too old even to volunteer with the territorial army.

Ex-service personnel are on a reserve list and would be called back first before the conscription of young people.

They would be on the list for the years with possible extensions up to age 58, I think.

Callistemon21 Fri 25-Feb-22 16:56:48

Three years not the years

MayBeMaw Fri 25-Feb-22 16:57:44

Short answer- No.
Longer answer- highly unlikely- I wonder where she has got the idea?

Callistemon21 Fri 25-Feb-22 16:59:14

giulia

Any possibility of this? I ask because my daughter (41 and childless) getting worried. Here in Italy not a squeak, nor in the rest of Europe - or we'd have heard.

I don't know what the rules are regarding reservists in other countries, giulia - was your DD in the Italian Armed Forces?

Sarnia Fri 25-Feb-22 17:18:16

When my Dad was alive he put everything that seemed to be on a downward slide, teenagers, crime figures, the length of boy's hair, unemployment, lousy Governments, anti-social behaviour etc all down to there being no more Conscription. His stock phrase was 'He needs a bl***dy good spell in the Army'. He may have had a point. 3 years in the Forces learning to drive, being taught new skills, being part of a team and accepting discipline and orders. Too many these days have little opportunity after leaving school, sometimes with few qualifications and mooch aimlessly through life often ending up on the wrong side of the law.

Kali2 Fri 25-Feb-22 17:39:05

GrannyGravy13

Kali2

Germanshepherdsmum

No. Increasingly battles will be fought using technology, not boots on the ground.

Do you actually think this will be better? Really?

Yes Kali2 drones and cyber warfare is far better than using the young men and sometimes women of any country as ^cannon fodder^

But it will the the civilians who will be killed- children, babies, the elderly and the vulnerable, whole families, in their homes, hospitals and care homes ...

I do think that it was better to have 2 armies in a field fighting each other- and leaving civilians.

Kali2 Fri 25-Feb-22 17:42:26

As for nuclear warfare ...

giulia Fri 25-Feb-22 17:43:28

Callistemon21

giulia

Any possibility of this? I ask because my daughter (41 and childless) getting worried. Here in Italy not a squeak, nor in the rest of Europe - or we'd have heard.

I don't know what the rules are regarding reservists in other countries, giulia - was your DD in the Italian Armed Forces?

No, shes never been with any Armed Forces. I don't know why she insists. She now says that two Polish colleagues in the hospital where she works hae been called bak to their country today to enrol ASAP:

Callistemon21 Fri 25-Feb-22 17:44:33

Drones to target specific points, airfields, military, Putin himself - not schools and hospitals.

I do think that it was better to have 2 armies in a field fighting each other- and leaving civilians.
I think you're going back quite a long way there.

Chestnut Fri 25-Feb-22 17:45:06

Can you even imagine trying to train today's youngsters? A hopeless and thankless task I would imagine. They would just refuse to obey and what could you do?

No-one can be forced to do anything they don't want to these days. It goes against their human rights!