Ukrainians fleeing Putin are refused entry to the U.K.

They have to be careful whom they let in I recognise that. I think all these people that care should offer a room or if they have just a room a bed, a couch, for they have to go somewhere.To say that certain politicians don’t care is wrong, we all feel the pain of what is happening, it’s heart wrenching.
Do something practical instead of casting stones, send money even £5 helps, send clothes, anything. Don’t think, do.
I pray with all my heart that Putin is stopped, that although I hate violence, they have to take out any Russian planes not in their air space. He is mad enough to use chemicals and nuclear as his frustration increases.

“Third defeat for the govt on the NationalityAndBordersBill . Lords force govt to comply with international law, honour its commitments under the 1951 Refugee Convention and the 1967 Status of Refugees protocol i.e. humane treatment of Refugees. Vote is 218 to 140, big defeat.”

Did Russian oligarchs get told to pick fruit? Oh no, they had golden visas and citizenship on tap.

whether

MayBee70

Yvette Cooper has just pointed out in parliament that, contrary to what the government seem to be saying, the elderly woman at Gare du Nord is still not being allowed to travel to the U.K. to be with her daughter.

When Patel answered "yes" to the question about whether the elderly lady the commentator on Channel 4 News explained why that answer is "not exactly true". But then, when was the last time a Tory minister told the truth. If they told me tomorrow was Tuesday, I would have to check.

GillT57

I laughed out loud reading that some commentators have said we need to be careful in case Russians sneak in posing as Ukrainian refugees. Worried that there aren't enough seats in the House of Lords for them all perhaps.

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Unbelievable indeed Gill!

GillT57

I laughed out loud reading that some commentators have said we need to be careful in case Russians sneak in posing as Ukrainian refugees. Worried that there aren't enough seats in the House of Lords for them all perhaps.

Well said.

I laughed out loud reading that some commentators have said we need to be careful in case Russians sneak in posing as Ukrainian refugees. Worried that there aren't enough seats in the House of Lords for them all perhaps.

Doubt it

Visgir1

MayBee70

Yvette Cooper has just pointed out in parliament that, contrary to what the government seem to be saying, the elderly woman at Gare du Nord is still not being allowed to travel to the U.K. to be with her daughter.

And the reply to Yvette Coopers question if she could come in was a straight "Yes" from Patel.

It isn’t true though is it?

MayBee70

Yvette Cooper has just pointed out in parliament that, contrary to what the government seem to be saying, the elderly woman at Gare du Nord is still not being allowed to travel to the U.K. to be with her daughter.

And the reply to Yvette Coopers question if she could come in was a straight "Yes" from Patel.

Patel is the most unspeakably evil Home Secretary that we have ever had.

No question.

Yvette Cooper has just pointed out in parliament that, contrary to what the government seem to be saying, the elderly woman at Gare du Nord is still not being allowed to travel to the U.K. to be with her daughter.

They don’t seem worried about potential terrorists either.

DON'T WAVE FLAGS - WAVE VISAS.

Callistemon21

vegansrock

Sweden and Finland are in the EU but not in NATO , it’s not a condition of entry, despite all those who believe the EU is some sort of dictatorship. wish we had their protection.

What protection?

Do you mean NATO? If so, we have.

Do you mean the EU? The EU has no combined military structure so would not offer protection as a combined force.
Perhaps you mean solidarity? We can still show solidarity with other European countries whether they/we are in the EU or not.

The UK is part of NATO- but sitting alone in a separate room, somehow.

And tbh, a combined force seems to make a lot of sense right now, no?

As for solidarity- the whole on Continental Europe is offering free rail travel, cancelling all Visa requirements, and allowing its citizens to show real, on the ground, practical help in 100s of ways- hosting individuals and families, pets too- driving to the border with vans and picking up strangers, whole families again, and pets, and offering free accommodation, in their home, in holiday homes, putting people up in Hôtels for free, food, clothes and everything- paying for flights to come and join them. British people can't do any of that, unless they have direct relatives coming from Ukraine. THAT is solidarity.

As usual Johnson's empty rhetoric about "Britain leading the world" contrasts with the truth - the UK's policy on Ukrainian refugees is mean and nasty compared with that of the Euiropean Union.

Another benefit of Brexit - we get to be the least generous and least hospitible country in Europe?

I'm sure I'm not the only one who is thoroughly ashamed..

I hope your nephew stays safe, Zoejory. Having him out there must be a huge worry for you and your family.

Unless they are fruit pickers, of course. Brilliant cartoon in The Times of Pritti asking a Ukrainian in a burning building if he is interested in fruit picking.

We're not talking about those kinds of things, though are we vegansrock!

Just emailed my (Tory) MP about the need to forget red tape and the fear of strangers and let Ukrainian refugees in without visas. Wonder if I'll get a reply...

At least we can donate to the UNHCR, Unicef, the Red Cross, and/or the various Refugee Councils in the UK, so that might be of some help.

The EU offers protection to its members in agreeing standards on all sorts of things from banning certain pesticides, cleaning up waterways , ensuring health and safety legislation, ease of movement between member states, helping poorer regions, mediating peace within the bloc etc etc. I could go on. I feel far less protection from the whims of a selfish incompetent government when not part of the EU. Why do you think Ukraine is eager to join? To get ensured support from the member states.

All over Continental Europe, visas have been dropped, free railway travel for all fleeing Ukraine, and so many sites with 1000s of people offering to host refugees, from 1 to all families, with pets or not. People driving to the border to pick up anyone, and return to their home, giving good quality clothes and sanitary products, buying flights to get to the offered accommodation, and picking up from airport. Strangers- just reaching out and prepared to do the right, amazing things. It has really lifted my heart an spirit.

Sadly the wonderful UK people cannot join in- as Johnson and Patel are ordering people to be turned away at Gare du Nord, Airport and ferries.

I must watch Patel again, but at the moment I am unclear of her planned policy towards the refugees.

She surprisingly didn’t make a ministers statement as I suspect she wanted to avoid too much questioning from the house.

She talked about British nationals. But not at all clear about Ukrainian nationals.

Patel insists that the routes have been in place for weeks, but she is talking about the arrangements that she put into place weeks ago.

She said it would allow 100,000 refugees, but no expansion on how this would be achieved.

One wonders what she has been doing over the past couple of days, but it sure as hell isn’t as efficient or capable as most of the countries in Europe.