John Bercow banned from Parliament for life

CvD66

While I cannot condone John Bercow's behaviour, I find it incredible that just one month after Dame Laura Cox's report into bullying and harassment (from 200 cases of evidence)in the HoC, Pritti Patel was excused by the PM despite an inquiry finding that her behaviour met the civil service definition of bullying (in more than one ministerial role). Bercow was a thorn in PM's side, Patel has been his vicious sidekick. Is that right, fair or decent??

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Bullying is bullying.

It stinks to me.

And I'm no great fan of Bercow, either.

IMO it's just another way to silence opposition to this current government.

CvD66

While I cannot condone John Bercow's behaviour, I find it incredible that just one month after Dame Laura Cox's report into bullying and harassment (from 200 cases of evidence)in the HoC, Pritti Patel was excused by the PM despite an inquiry finding that her behaviour met the civil service definition of bullying (in more than one ministerial role). Bercow was a thorn in PM's side, Patel has been his vicious sidekick. Is that right, fair or decent??

Well said.

Well said CvD66 and Dickens.
At least Bercow kept to high standards when it came to behaviour in Parliament .
If he is not allowed a Parliamentary pass how come Priti Patel is allowed in? . She has been shown to be a bully and often comes over as downright rude , ill tempered and bad mannered in debate.

I think he should be stripped of being a Lord he came over as a bully and an obnoxious little man with a massive chip on his shoulder

Lesley60

I think he should be stripped of being a Lord he came over as a bully and an obnoxious little man with a massive chip on his shoulder

I just love it when people come on to comment and have no idea what they are talking about

Bercow isn't a Lord. Former speakers usually do get a peerage and sit in the Lords, but Bercow didn't. Another petty act of revenge by Johnson and his Brexit government.

The case was more about bullying the staff who worked for him and parliament in general. Reducing staff to tears by publicly shouting and humiliating them is appalling.

Surprised at how many GN’s agree to this as it allows them to put the boot in re Boris. Shocking but not too surprised that bullying is fine in some circumstances account to the haters.

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Surprised at how many GN’s agree to this as it allows them to put the boot in re Boris. Shocking but not too surprised that bullying is fine in some circumstances account to the haters.

Do show us where anyone has defended him.

Try reading posts with a bit of comprehension.

One of the staff who worked with him, and was one of the victims of his incessant bullying, said that " It was the one and only genuinely horrible, undermining and consistently upsetting period of my career which had led to stress, anxiety and a loss of confidence, was when I worked for him". She said Mr Bercow had failed to show remorse and had instead "blamed the process for being flawed, amateurish and unjust and not even applicable to him".

No one should be expected to work with someone who loudly and continually criticises their upbringing, education or background but I expect the usual snippy, snarky, Bercow admiring apologists will find some way to defend him his behaviour.

but I expect the usual snippy, snarky, Bercow admiring apologists will find some way to defend him his behaviour.

Can you justify that statement by what has been said so far on this thread? I haven't seen anyone defending his behaviour.

Chewbacca I expect the usual snippy, snarky, Bercow admiring apologists will find some way to defend him his behaviour.

Page 2 now and no-one has defended his behaviour. Please get back to us when this happens.

It is the utter hypocrisy that I find so chilling.

Patel was found guilty of the exact same crime. Staff were constantly being reduced to tears. Her language was appalling and she belittled so many.

All bullies should be made to pay. Not just those you don’t like or support.

Bercow has rightly been called out, now how about Patel?

Patel should have been got rid of long ago and not just for being a foul mouthed bully.

Horrible man. I hope this stops him being shown on the media and he just disappears from Public Life.
No excuse for being a Bully.

Reading the article the "ban" has been recommended but no decision has yet been made to implement it.

I assume that if this goes ahead all proven serial liars and bullies in Parliament will be punished in the same way.

I also assume that if all are not treated in the same way John Burcow would be able to take the findings and sentence to law.

There is no excuse for bullying, shouting and swearing at staff - and that counts for everyone, no matter what their political leanings are. As he has been found guilty then I hope the proposed ban is implemented

So one ex parliamentarian accused of bullying and found guilty is lambasted in the press and condemned by an MP (Andrea Leadsome really!!!!) whilst a sitting MP and minister found guilty of bullying, who only escaped an employment tribunal by dishing out an undisclosed sum of public money, still sits and is supported by the PM! Is it any wonder that people have lost all respect and belief in MPs?

I just love it when people come on to comment and have no idea what they are talking about MaizieD
I'm afraid there's a lot of that on Social Media
I'm sorry he was a bully to work for, but he was an assertive Speaker when we really needed one.

He was Chardy. And they didn't like being called out for their faults, which frankly, even a novice to the UK political scene could see.

Bercow's just been live on Sky news. Quite furious and getting passive aggressive with the reporter.

Quite an interesting article here. Why would a private secretary be paid 86k and asked to sign an NDR if there was no substance to the allegations?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43963788

It was his patronising attitude to his constituents that annoyed me - ‘ I will do as I like’, I always thought MPs worked for their constituents, but not him

He is very smart and very good with words so standing up to him, especially if in an inferior position (work wise, not size wise), would be extremely hard. He doesn't come across as a man who would take being talked back to.

Listening to him on the radio this afternoon, the difference between him and Pritti Patel appears to be that she accepted, if reluctantly, the need to change her approach and moderate her behaviour (or at least try to) while he doesn't. He says he's not a bully and can't see that he ever has been and is refusing to accept his ban or the verdict. He says he's innocent, so therefore he is.

He seemed to have a poor attitude towards constituents - I agree that he seemed to forget that he was a public servant, voted in by the public. I can't say I was impressed by his wife posing, draped in a sheet, in the H of C - they seemed to want to turn it into the Bercow show rather than behave with some dignity.

GillT57

Compared to the rather weak Speaker we have now, Bercow was good at keeping control. If he has been found guilty of bullying, his punishment is right, and the same should apply to Pritti Patel, equality and all that.

Hear hear.

I do agree bullies should be punished, but how come Priti Patel isn’t ?

Also…….The usual collection of snooty remarks along the lines of ghastly little man, little jumped up, nasty little man.