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Do you shop at M&S? Please could you stop?

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trisher Fri 18-Mar-22 09:59:18

If you do, even if its just for food, please could you stop for a bit. M&S are one of the firms still active in Russia. So they are stil paying taxes there. A Ukranian minister said on QT last night that if you shop there you are providing money to buy bullets that might kill a Ukrainian child.

Farzanah Mon 21-Mar-22 14:07:18

Good reason TO shop at M&S because they are also matching donations made by sparks customers, in addition to other donations they have made.
To be fair I think most big high street retailers are making substantial donations to relief agencies involved in Ukraine, which is very heartening.

Rosie51 Mon 21-Mar-22 14:05:17

Let's hope people don't heed the cry to boycott them. They've been doing it at the self service tills for a week or two, good if they're starting on the manned tills too.

Iam64 Mon 21-Mar-22 13:50:02

Good work M and S

Aveline Mon 21-Mar-22 13:25:21

Just back from my regular shop at M&S. Glad to see they were collecting for Ukraine by asking every shopper if they'd like to add a pound to their bill for their Ukraine collection.

Blossoming Sun 20-Mar-22 16:41:24

I don’t actually shop in M&S at the moment as I’m unable to get to the shop. I won’t be boycotting them though, for the reasons most people on this thread won’t be boycotting them either.

I won’t be buying any McDonalds or Coca Cola because I think they’re unhealthy crap.

Farzanah Sun 20-Mar-22 15:45:19

Just don’t waste your time any more volver, it’s nice out, just go for a walk.
My pet hate too is posters swanning onto a thread without reading previous comments…..
Repeat, repeat, repeat.

Chewbacca Sun 20-Mar-22 14:41:24

Nobody is trying to bring down a UK business just asking that they put a little more effort into distancing themselves.

What does that even mean? If you're asking people not to give their custom to a business you're effectively asking them to boycott them. If you boycott a business you'll financially cripple it. If you financially cripple it there will be job losses. And all if that will have been caused because someone started a rumour that that business was complicit in providing services to a country who has started a war. But they aren't. It's a lie that's been proven to you repeatedly so why are you perpetuating this unproven rumour?

Zoejory Sun 20-Mar-22 14:34:52

Nobody is trying to bring down a UK business just asking that they put a little more effort into distancing themselves.

What does that exactly mean? You want people to stop shopping there. If they heeded your polite request they'd be out of business. Thousands would be out of work. And my senior dog would starve as she only eats M&S pouch dog food.

I have been to M&S this morning and will continue to do so. There were no outraged people with banners outside.

volver Sun 20-Mar-22 14:33:34

Aye, whatever.

trisher Sun 20-Mar-22 14:30:56

volver

^So perhaps questioning who is involved and what their interests are is valid.^

Absolutely.

And ignoring reality and coming up with spurious reasons for trying to bring down a UK business are not valid.

I'm being polite.

Nobody is trying to bring down a UK business just asking that they put a little more effort into distancing themselves.

volver Sun 20-Mar-22 14:14:02

Bignanny2

I had already decided to boycott them as soon as I read in the paper that they are still trading in Russia, or allowing their name to be used.

Just read the thread.

Please. Just read the thread.

volver Sun 20-Mar-22 14:13:16

So perhaps questioning who is involved and what their interests are is valid.

Absolutely.

And ignoring reality and coming up with spurious reasons for trying to bring down a UK business are not valid.

I'm being polite.

Bignanny2 Sun 20-Mar-22 14:13:11

I had already decided to boycott them as soon as I read in the paper that they are still trading in Russia, or allowing their name to be used.

trisher Sun 20-Mar-22 14:09:01

volver

Thank you Aveline.

Its a worry though, isn't it? Generally? So many people on here with information about how trade marks work, how franchises operate, all that stuff, but we still get people saying they smell a rat and there's some kind of international conspiracy going on.

For me, it explains a lot about how governments manage to sow misinformation amongst the populace.

Do you really not think then volver that the only people who come successfully out of any war are companies and bankers? (oh and millionaires)
www.forbes.com/sites/maddieberg/2019/04/02/more-than-a-dozen-of-europes-wealthiest-billionaires-and-their-families-had-nazi-ties/?sh=2b3509fd6015
And bankers back both sides
www.quora.com/Who-were-the-secret-bankers-behind-World-War-I-and-World-War-II-How-did-the-countries-during-these-wars-finance-them-Who-gave-them-the-money-What-individuals
So perhaps questioning who is involved and what their interests are is valid.

Aveline Sun 20-Mar-22 13:58:07

And also the anti government lobby. How gullible we all must be!

volver Sun 20-Mar-22 13:45:19

Thank you Aveline.

Its a worry though, isn't it? Generally? So many people on here with information about how trade marks work, how franchises operate, all that stuff, but we still get people saying they smell a rat and there's some kind of international conspiracy going on.

For me, it explains a lot about how governments manage to sow misinformation amongst the populace.

Aveline Sun 20-Mar-22 13:36:06

Och volver there are 'none so blind as those that will not see'! I sometimes think that some people just go on threads looking for an argument and will argue black's white if necessary. You're well informed and right in this case. Virtually everyone on this thread agrees with you. Thank you.

volver Sun 20-Mar-22 13:10:52

M&S don't pay taxes in Russia. They don't have any stores in Russia any more.

How many times....?

Silvergirl Sun 20-Mar-22 13:09:57

No one wants to boycott a company unnecessarily for all the obvious reasons. Surely M&S cd legally stop shops in Russia using their brand name. By doing so, over time, popular dissent could help take Putin down and subsequently end the war. If M&S did this, I for one, would more than support them in this country. Something similar occurred earlier with Macdonalds and Coca Cola. I believe they have stopped trading in Russia, hence they are now being supported in UK.

SporeRB Sun 20-Mar-22 13:09:16

Do you shop at Marks & Spencer?
Yes.

Can you stop please?
Sorry, no.

When I first read this thread, I thought M&S has hundreds or thousands of stores in Russia, it turned out they only have 48 stores in the whole of Russia!

The implication that somehow M&S is responsible for the killing of Ukranian children is OTT, the taxes M&S paid to Russia from these stores is a drop in the ocean compared to the billions of money Russia received from Germany for oil & gas.

However, if enough people believe in this ‘propaganda’ and boycott M&S products, it could potentially lead to thousands of people in the UK and worldwide losing their jobs and homes through no fault of their own.

As panelists of Dragon Den would say "Sorry but Im out".

Mollygo Sun 20-Mar-22 13:07:41

Farzanah

What about the top ten shareholders of M&S. Shall we trace and lobby them?

Set trisher on it.

Farzanah Sun 20-Mar-22 13:03:28

What about the top ten shareholders of M&S. Shall we trace and lobby them?

Chewbacca Sun 20-Mar-22 12:52:37

Getting desperate now.

volver Sun 20-Mar-22 12:46:54

Well done trisher.

You appear to have uncovered an international conspiracy.

I'd call MI6, if I was you.

(Credit Bank Europe are Dutch, but don't let that stop you.)

trisher Sun 20-Mar-22 12:39:09

M&S plc is linked to M&S banking owned by HSBC. M&S Bank is part of the HSBC Group. Marks & Spencer is a registered trademark of Marks and Spencer plc and is used under licence. FIBa is part of an international banking group among which is Credit Bank Europe a significant Russian Bank. The possibility that neither of these bodies would like to see the Russian economy collapse is surely evident?