'Ludicrous debates about language, statues and pronouns' - do you agree with Liz Truss?

This is a video of what Truss actually said:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc7HRrMoqEs

It's simplistic (but very clever) in the extreme.

According to her, discussing "pronouns" and questioning statues are the opposite of feeling pride in the values of the UK. They're not! The ability to discuss them is the essence of British values and we should feel some pride they still exist.

The "war on woke" has been a theme running through other senior politicians' speech in recent days. It's obviously top of the policy makers' agenda. The politicians themselves don't have to say much because they know that it will give certain sectors of the public and the media an opportunity to vent their frustration that "they can't say what they want in case they are accused of not being PC".

Ironically, the people attempting to shut down free speech are the ones accusing others of being "woke".

growstuff How do you what she wanted us to believe? Did she tell you?

I would have agreed with the words written down, even if Jeremy Corbyn had said them. Who said them is immaterial, it is the words I agree with. Someone voiced words that said what I think.

One of the joys of being politically essentially independent is that I do not wear blinkers and assume everything anyone in a party I do not support says is bad and everything someone in a a party I do support says is right. I agree when some one says something I agree with and disagree with them the next day if they say something I disagree with.

Right, I’ve had a look at what Liz Truss said and it’s a curate’s egg as far as I’m concerned.

Identity politics has become a quagmire. It started with good intentions, but you cannot please everyone all the time. Your rights should not come at the expense of somebody else’s.

I’m sure the Establishment would love to brush our colonial past under the carpet. I’m sure the Royal Family would not like people to know how much of their wealth was built on the slave trade. I, however, believe these things should be out in the open. The trade is documented, records exist, such as this charter in the British Library.

www.bl.uk/collection-items/charter-granted-to-the-company-of-royal-adventurers-of-england-relating-to-trade-in-africa-1663

M0nica

growstuff How do you what she wanted us to believe? Did she tell you?

I would have agreed with the words written down, even if Jeremy Corbyn had said them. Who said them is immaterial, it is the words I agree with. Someone voiced words that said what I think.

One of the joys of being politically essentially independent is that I do not wear blinkers and assume everything anyone in a party I do not support says is bad and everything someone in a a party I do support says is right. I agree when some one says something I agree with and disagree with them the next day if they say something I disagree with.

It's not rocket science to put it in context.

M0nica

growstuff How do you what she wanted us to believe? Did she tell you?

I would have agreed with the words written down, even if Jeremy Corbyn had said them. Who said them is immaterial, it is the words I agree with. Someone voiced words that said what I think.

One of the joys of being politically essentially independent is that I do not wear blinkers and assume everything anyone in a party I do not support says is bad and everything someone in a a party I do support says is right. I agree when some one says something I agree with and disagree with them the next day if they say something I disagree with.

No, she didn't say very much at all. You're filling in the gaps, which is exactly what was intended. Look at the history of propaganda.

M0nica

growstuff How do you what she wanted us to believe? Did she tell you?

I would have agreed with the words written down, even if Jeremy Corbyn had said them. Who said them is immaterial, it is the words I agree with. Someone voiced words that said what I think.

One of the joys of being politically essentially independent is that I do not wear blinkers and assume everything anyone in a party I do not support says is bad and everything someone in a a party I do support says is right. I agree when some one says something I agree with and disagree with them the next day if they say something I disagree with.

And, according to you, from a post a few days ago, you know exactly what kind of person I am! I wonder how you know that. Maybe get a good mirror!

growstuff that response was to a post you made to someone else and it was removed from the thread for breaking guidelines, as were all the responses to it. So obviously I cannot comment further. But yours was the post removed because it was considered offensive.