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How many foreign secretaries does it take….?

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MayBee70 Mon 21-Mar-22 13:39:49

Nazanin has just pointed out that, since she was imprisoned in Iran the U.K. has had 5 ( (or is it 6?) foreign secretaries and that it shouldn’t have taken so long to secure her release. Is it normal for governments to have so many foreign secretaries in such a short space of time? Is it normal for a failed foreign secretary to then become PM. It could be argued that it’s due to the number of elections we’ve had, but that isn’t normal either. Are we just accepting/becoming complacent with things in politics that are just plain wrong?

Calendargirl Wed 23-Mar-22 16:02:41

merlotgran

Yammy

eazybee

When hostages return from captivity they given time and privacy to acclimatise themselves before seeing anyone other than immediate family. A charitable interpretation is that she gave an interview too soon.

This is what I implied yesterday and was shot down for .
Terry Waite said as much last week, a quick I,m glad to be back a cursory nod to the enablers. Then disappear to get to know their family again and regain their own equilibrium.
I could not agree with you more eazybee. Well done for putting it so succinctly.flowers

ditto

ditto me also.

merlotgran Wed 23-Mar-22 15:41:38

Yammy

eazybee

When hostages return from captivity they given time and privacy to acclimatise themselves before seeing anyone other than immediate family. A charitable interpretation is that she gave an interview too soon.

This is what I implied yesterday and was shot down for .
Terry Waite said as much last week, a quick I,m glad to be back a cursory nod to the enablers. Then disappear to get to know their family again and regain their own equilibrium.
I could not agree with you more eazybee. Well done for putting it so succinctly.flowers

ditto

Yammy Wed 23-Mar-22 15:23:10

eazybee

When hostages return from captivity they given time and privacy to acclimatise themselves before seeing anyone other than immediate family. A charitable interpretation is that she gave an interview too soon.

This is what I implied yesterday and was shot down for .
Terry Waite said as much last week, a quick I,m glad to be back a cursory nod to the enablers. Then disappear to get to know their family again and regain their own equilibrium.
I could not agree with you more eazybee. Well done for putting it so succinctly.flowers

eazybee Wed 23-Mar-22 13:33:29

When hostages return from captivity they given time and privacy to acclimatise themselves before seeing anyone other than immediate family. A charitable interpretation is that she gave an interview too soon.

GillT57 Wed 23-Mar-22 11:53:00

It is likely dangerous for Nazanin to criticise the regime in Iran, and there is no dispute over who kept her prisoner and treated her abominably, no argument there. But, she does have valid cause to question why it took so long for the British government to get her and others out, and I think she is to be respected for her dignity, her anger, her wanting questions answered.

maddyone Wed 23-Mar-22 10:28:41

I did say I was surprised she didn’t criticise Iran, but then realised when others mentioned it that of course she wouldn’t because her family are still there. I just hadn’t thought that far, and I do wish that posters wouldn’t be so quick to judge because I only wish happiness to Nazanin and her family.

maddyone Wed 23-Mar-22 10:25:28

I truly hope that Nazanin and her family are able to settle down and get on with life normally now. I feel for her parents back in Iran. I wonder if they’ll try to come here eventually. Obviously Nazanin will never be able to return to Iran to see them so maybe they will, although they may well have other family they don’t want to leave. She’s home, but it’s still a sad situation for the family.

Zoejory Tue 22-Mar-22 23:28:15

There has been a surprising backlash to this. I assumed we'd all have been thrilled with some good news. And yes, she criticised the government but wouldn't we all? Some decades old debt and a hapless soon to be PM commenting when he knew nothing about the case.

I think she'll be after a political career at some point. Just my guess really.

Even No 10 have asked for the backlash to stop.

Trouble with social media, and Twitter in particular, people just get carried away and then it all turns nasty.

I do feel for her. I hope she's not paying too much attention to all this negativity.

MayBee70 Tue 22-Mar-22 23:20:59

There are enough bad things happening in the world and yet some of the comments I’m reading on Facebook and other forums are turning my stomach. As if Nazanin and her family haven’t been through enough. I’m sickened by it.

Dinahmo Tue 22-Mar-22 23:19:30

I saw some of her interview yesterday. My abiding impression is of an elegant, well groomed, articulate woman and I thought that she has a career ahead of her in the public domain. I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised at some of the hateful comments on here.

Dinahmo Tue 22-Mar-22 22:54:02

MawtheMerrier

^IMO many Brits don't like discussing politics for some reason and don't take much notice of what's happening^

I'm not sure where you get that idea from Dinahmo
Is that what they think in your part of France? It's certainly not the case in my part of England!

It was the French who commented how Brits here don't like to talk politics. I do as do most of our friends but we have come across others in England who don't particularly when there are disagreements.

volver Tue 22-Mar-22 22:46:59

Aye, OK. ?

Yammy Tue 22-Mar-22 22:35:20

volver

? for *Lucca" for winning ?

Can't do red...✅

If it takes a drink to think you have won I pity you.

Yammy Tue 22-Mar-22 22:33:24

Allsorts

It wasn’t this country that held her hostage, we don’t do that. Iran is responsible not us.

Thank you, at last, for someone who sees it as I do. I'll drink to that too.[drink]

PECS Tue 22-Mar-22 22:06:35

Allsorts absolutely Iranian regime was responsible for her imprisonment but the British government do not appear to have handled the case well. In fact it is likely that they may have prolonged her confinement by poor diplomacy. Nothing to be pleased about.

Allsorts Tue 22-Mar-22 21:19:53

It wasn’t this country that held her hostage, we don’t do that. Iran is responsible not us.

volver Tue 22-Mar-22 21:10:38

? for *Lucca" for winning ?

Can't do red...✅

Lucca Tue 22-Mar-22 21:02:40

???‍♀️?

Lucca Tue 22-Mar-22 21:02:02

What are you on about ?

Yammy Tue 22-Mar-22 20:59:13

Granniesunite

MayBee70

She has to be careful what she says. Her family are still back in Iran. If she is too critical of the Iranian government it might justify their claims that she was in Iran to undermine the government,

Sensible post. I agree .

I think you might have just got a big red tick there, they probably agree with what you say. I would suggest you stop while you are winning.

Lucca Tue 22-Mar-22 20:58:16

Yammy

MayBee70

She has to be careful what she says. Her family are still back in Iran. If she is too critical of the Iranian government it might justify their claims that she was in Iran to undermine the government,

I would watch what you say on this stream or you will be lambasted and lampooned and I have been called a racist and ultra-right-wing. I'm waiting for the anti-Semitic and anti-trans next.
When posters have no idea of my colour, creed, political views or sexual orientation.
Why do they start a thread when they did not want to know what others think and have their own agenda, which they are just out to prove?

Goodness me what an overreaction. And this thread is about Nazanin……er not you

Granniesunite Tue 22-Mar-22 20:55:39

MayBee70

She has to be careful what she says. Her family are still back in Iran. If she is too critical of the Iranian government it might justify their claims that she was in Iran to undermine the government,

Sensible post. I agree .

Yammy Tue 22-Mar-22 20:51:52

MayBee70

She has to be careful what she says. Her family are still back in Iran. If she is too critical of the Iranian government it might justify their claims that she was in Iran to undermine the government,

I would watch what you say on this stream or you will be lambasted and lampooned and I have been called a racist and ultra-right-wing. I'm waiting for the anti-Semitic and anti-trans next.
When posters have no idea of my colour, creed, political views or sexual orientation.
Why do they start a thread when they did not want to know what others think and have their own agenda, which they are just out to prove?

MayBee70 Tue 22-Mar-22 20:27:25

She has to be careful what she says. Her family are still back in Iran. If she is too critical of the Iranian government it might justify their claims that she was in Iran to undermine the government,

Granniesunite Tue 22-Mar-22 20:10:58

Omg. Such brutal treatment of an innocent woman. I really admire her strength and sheer tenacity .One day her daughter will be so very very proud of her mum and dad.