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Ukraine - contd

(162 Posts)
boheminan Tue 22-Mar-22 13:50:11

Although I have not contributed to this thread, I'm keeping a close eye on it for information. I think it's important to keep it alive.

Over to you....

MerylStreep Sun 27-Mar-22 18:47:31

So why did the Secretary of State have to back pedal on Bidens announcement on Putin www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10657001/Blinken-says-no-strategy-regime-change-Russia-Biden-remark.html

Zoejory Sun 27-Mar-22 18:43:15

DaisyAnne

You are the one who is totally out of step! Biden has made some comments that are not conducive to world peace.

The White House is constantly rectifying his loose words. He's very dangerous and needs to keep to a script which I'm sure had been written for him.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60895392

DaisyAnne Sun 27-Mar-22 18:30:04

BoadiceaJones

Ermm, no DaisyAnne.. Why do you ask?

"Turkey shoot" and what you appear to be reading online.

DaisyAnne Sun 27-Mar-22 18:28:49

How on earth do you justify that Zoejory. You do realise you are out of step with all the leaders of the free world and in step with those who would be or are dictators I presume.

Zoejory Sun 27-Mar-22 10:07:15

Biden would do the world a favour if he just stopped making speeches.

MerylStreep Sun 27-Mar-22 09:59:08

Whitewavemark2

Wow Biden’s speech is sooooo good.

So good that all the back room boys in the white house are doing their best to put a spin on his reference to replacing Putin.

BoadiceaJones Sat 26-Mar-22 23:03:25

Ermm, no DaisyAnne.. Why do you ask?

DaisyAnne Sat 26-Mar-22 22:42:44

Are you in the US by any chance BoadiceaJones?

Callistemon21 Sat 26-Mar-22 20:10:35

Sorry, ^^ instead of ** BoadiceaJones

Callistemon21 Sat 26-Mar-22 20:09:50

BoadiceaJones

Cannon fodder for Putin, so desperately sad.
The young of Russia, dying, all to boost his ego.

BoadiceaJones Sat 26-Mar-22 19:45:37

DH showed me the most appalling footage on Youtube, filmed from a helicopter that was taking out a Russian tank convoy. Each tank contains 12 boys men. It was a turkey shoot. They had no idea of what to do, no attempt to drive off the road under the concealing trees, no support fire..one by one, they simply exploded in a hellish ball of flames. Awful. 18 year old conscripts.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 26-Mar-22 18:17:24

Love the way Biden referenced the rise in autocracy and populism and the threat to democracy.

Callistemon21 Sat 26-Mar-22 17:37:41

MaizieD

Don't forget that Ukraine is a very big country and not all of it is overrun with the Russian army. Farmers will be getting on with the spring sowing. Whether or not they get to harvest it is a different matter.

And get to export it - that could be a problem.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 26-Mar-22 17:36:40

Wow Biden’s speech is sooooo good.

MaizieD Sat 26-Mar-22 17:34:41

Don't forget that Ukraine is a very big country and not all of it is overrun with the Russian army. Farmers will be getting on with the spring sowing. Whether or not they get to harvest it is a different matter.

Callistemon21 Sat 26-Mar-22 16:36:15

Casdon

STATEMENT ON UK WHEAT SUPPLY IN LIGHT OF CURRENT SITUATION IN UKRAINE - UK Flour Millers
4 Mar 2022 — The UK imports almost no wheat from Ukraine or Russia for human consumption. Most of the wheat we use is grown in Britain.

Thanks Casdon

We import some wheat from Canada too as their wheat is harder (does that mean higher in gluten?) and apparently better for breadmaking.

Some Middle Eastern countries, Bangladesh, Indonesia and Pakistan imported wheat from Ukraine and Russia so they will be suffering shortages now.

volver Sat 26-Mar-22 16:30:27

?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 26-Mar-22 16:24:47

volver

I wasn't arguing WWM2, just agreeing, really...wink

Makes a change for us to agree?

volver Sat 26-Mar-22 16:23:48

I wasn't arguing WWM2, just agreeing, really...wink

Whitewavemark2 Sat 26-Mar-22 16:20:45

Oh ?. I didn’t read the article.

volver Sat 26-Mar-22 16:07:18

I read the rest of the article that Casdon cites and that's basically what it says.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 26-Mar-22 16:04:42

volver

I'm a bit speechless, really. Thanks Casdon. You and your facts... wink

And me.

I thought that out bread flour comes from Canada though.

I think really the point probably is that there will be a worldwide shortage if flour. Unless governments intervene - the market is king and farmers will sell to the highest bidder, so I reckon however you look at it there will be a massive rise in the price if flour.

volver Sat 26-Mar-22 16:00:14

I'm a bit speechless, really. Thanks Casdon. You and your facts... wink

Casdon Sat 26-Mar-22 15:14:42

STATEMENT ON UK WHEAT SUPPLY IN LIGHT OF CURRENT SITUATION IN UKRAINE - UK Flour Millers
4 Mar 2022 — The UK imports almost no wheat from Ukraine or Russia for human consumption. Most of the wheat we use is grown in Britain.

ExDancer Sat 26-Mar-22 15:11:27

I don't imagine there will be much wheat exported from Ukraine this coming autumn, and as we rely heavily on Ukrainian wheat for flour our own farmers are going to have to step up to the mark and produce as much as they can. Sadly there is nothing like the amount of land in the UK suitable for growing wheat so we're in trouble.
Its time the govt stopped this 'rewilding' and similar schemes and encouraged farmers to get on with what they do best, producing high quality meat and vegetables for the home market.