An ideal government

Maizie I would expect no other reply from you. Most people prefer to ignore uncomfortable facts.

Oh, before you misimterprete my above remark. the fact that there were two or many complicit parties to a wrong does absolutely nothing to justify or mitigate that evil or the responsibility of each party involved.

But all those involved in an evil should take on their responsibility and, if anything the admittance by all those involved in the slave trade, on all sides about how they co-operated in it, only makes the evil appear more heinous.

Can you name any empire in any time in history that was not accompanied by terrible actions? Look at China and the Uighurs and Russia and Ukraine.

Still on the whataboutery, MOnica.

M0nica

Maybe70
^ So, apart from Iraq, what exactly did Blair do that was so awful?^

Well Iraq was so terrible, is still terrible, the deaths that go on, the suffering. It led to ISIS and the terrible things they did including the virtual destruction of the Yazidhi community. Isn't that enough to totally damn the reputation of the Prime Minister who did it forever? In fact it is so bad it could be shared out across many Prime Ministers and it would be sufficient to damn them all.

Iraq was terrible; it was certainly not as black and white as some pretend. As time goes by, I believe there will be a more nuanced reassessment.

Please don't think I am trying to persuade you to agree with my opinion; I am not. However, I doubt I am the only person holding it.

May be do not equate my huge disappointment in Blair with any kind of support for the current PM?

No such thing as an ideal government

Zoejory

No such thing as an *ideal government*

Which is why it’s up to the electorate to hold them to account.

Maizie What you call 'whataboutery' I call being honest.

If you want to deal with dishonesty and ignoring inconvenient facts, you may do so.

"Whataboutery" is not about facing up to inconvenient truths but is attempting to diminish the significance of one truth by introducing others as if one awful deed is somehow lessened because someone else did a nasty thing!