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varian Sat 02-Apr-22 20:54:11

Is this sort of behaviour from Tory MPs just par for the course these days?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10679563/Conservative-MP-David-Warburton-suspended-amid-sex-drugs-allegations.html

varian Wed 22-Jun-22 22:16:59

Months after his scandalous behaviour featured on the front pages of the Sunday papers David Warburton is finally being investigated by the parliamentory authorities.

Let's hope he resigns or is disbarred as an MP so the people of Somerton and Frome can elect a decent representative.
. www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/22/tory-mp-david-warburton-parliamentary-standards-inquiry

Iam64 Wed 18-May-22 08:58:39

A two year investigation by the met suggests this has been properly investigated. He’s been arrested, not yet charged

Someone upthread has raised the usual old question. Why did the woman (and we are assuming the alleged victim is female) not complain immediately. Read the research on this and don’t instantly assume it’s false allegations

vegansrock Wed 18-May-22 06:13:48

A quick look at twitter and you will know who the unnamed MP is. There are 2 names going the rounds, the most likely one is an MP I haven’t heard of.

Ailidh Wed 18-May-22 05:00:08

Indeed. The unnamed Tory sounds thoroughly unpleasant I all manner of ways before these allegations.

DiamondLily Wed 18-May-22 04:51:00

The unnamed Tory MP, who has been named all over the net, voted against gay marriage, when it was voted on, as it being immoral, inappropriate etc.?

Sometimes, people's morals are obviously very flexible...?

Urmstongran Tue 17-May-22 21:10:41

Oh sorry ... wrong thread! Apologies everyone.
Thanks varian.

varian Tue 17-May-22 21:04:37

What has this Telegraph article got to do with Tory sleaze?

Urmstongran Tue 17-May-22 20:58:00

This, from Allison Pearson in today’s Telegraph, makes for mind boggling reading about the many levels of NHS management teams:

Look away now if you suffer from hypertension ....

“Unfortunately, NHS managers appear to see their role of overseeing the delivery of healthcare as superior to that of care itself. I asked “George”, Planet Normal’s senior source within NHS England, to paint me a picture of the organisation’s structure. After reading the email, I needed a lie down in a darkened room.

Essentially, NHS England – main offices in London and Leeds, but with lots of satellite buildings in places like Leicester and Taunton – is a Hydra with all of its multiple heads turned inwards looking at all the other heads.

NHS England does no routine hospital management; it is responsible for implementing government policy. For every type of healthcare “workstream” – elective, mental health, screening, primary care – there is someone in NHS England in charge of overseeing the delivery. Each of those national leads has a team of people and each region (of which there are seven) has a set of people overseeing delivery from a regional perspective. That’s a hell of a lot of staff who are not actually providing any medical care, but are busy reporting on how others are delivering it.

Wait, there’s more. An executive board covers operations, finance, information technology, human resources and analytics. Each of those functions has a similarly extensive national and regional structure. The function of departments called things like Improvement, Strategy and Transformation is “murky”, says George, but “essentially, a lot of resource goes into looking at how can we do things better and more efficiently while never appearing to make any progress in that direction”.

I’m not sure I can bring myself to type what follows, it’s too depressing. But I think you should know – after all, you’re the ones paying for it. In between NHS England and the hospitals, there are now Integrated Care Systems, which are basically a partnership between the hospitals, GPs, some local authority services and healthcare commissioners. They too all have boards, heads of delivery, finance structures and business intelligence functions. (Of course, they do!) As George wryly observes: “This is yet another in a long line of organisational configurations that may or may not deliver any real improvements or change.”

In theory, NHS England can support, cajole, even threaten those organisations actually doing the frontline delivery. Ultimately, says George: “We are fairly powerless to bring about any real change. So you have to wonder, how much money should this organisation consume and does it provides any real value?”

volver Tue 17-May-22 19:51:48

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varian Tue 17-May-22 19:11:00

Scotland Yard said today: "A man was arrested on suspicion of indecent assault, sexual assault, rape, abuse of position of trust and misconduct in a public office."

The Met said the alleged sexual offences were committed between 2002 and 2009 in London.

They first received a report of the allegations in January 2020 and have conducted a two-year probe into the claims.

The unnamed MP is not being suspended by the party until detectives from the Central Specialist Crime unit conclude their probe.

But Chief Whip Chris Heaton Harris has asked the MP to stay away from Parliament during the investigation.

A whips office spokesperson said: "The Chief Whip has asked that the MP concerned does not attend the Parliamentary Estate while an investigation is ongoing.

"Until the conclusion of the investigation we will not be commenting further."

The sex assault arrest comes after Parliament was rocked by a fresh Pestminster scandal amid a recent flurry of cases.

Imran Ahmad Khan resigned as a Tory MP after last month being convicted of molesting a teenage boy.

Fellow Conservative David Warburton was also suspended following sexual harassment allegations.

Around 50 MPs have reportedly been referred to Parliament's authorities over sex misconduct claims.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/18599461/tory-mp-arrested-for-rape/

Urmstongran Tue 17-May-22 19:05:01

Not another one! Good god.

growstuff Tue 17-May-22 19:01:26

He's been identified, but I'll leave others to search. I've lost count of how many there are now.

Glorianny Tue 17-May-22 18:38:05

varian

Good excuse isn't it?

He was suffering from a mental illness when he behaved inappropriately towards three different women .

He was suffering from a mental illness when he snorted cocaine - and when he ordered a woman to buy him cocaine.

He was also suffering from a mental illness when he borrowed £100,000 from a very dodgy Russian who had been declared unfit to be involved in the financial servises industry.

Perhaps David Warburton's longstanding mental illness explains his support for Brexit and the Tory Party.

Should we all just sympathise with him because of his mental illness and excuse him and all the other Tory Brexiters who have done such appalling damage to our country because they were all suffering from some mental illness?

Maybe we could just have them all committed and start again????

varian Tue 17-May-22 18:18:30

A Tory MP has been arrested on suspicion of sexual offences, with the party banning him from attending the House of Commons.

A Conservative Whips’ Office spokesperson said the MP would be asked not to come to parliament. “The chief whip has asked that the MP concerned does not attend the parliamentary estate while an investigation is ongoing. Until the conclusion of the investigation we will not be commenting further.”

Scotland Yard told the Sun, which revealed the arrest: “A man was arrested on suspicion of indecent assault, sexual assault, rape, abuse of position of trust and misconduct in a public office.”

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/17/tory-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-and-banned-from-commons-reports

varian Sun 17-Apr-22 18:41:09

"The discomfort with the Tory brand goes beyond parties. “It feels as though we’re returning to the 90s,” says a member of the 2019 intake. “Every week there is a new scandal and it looks seedy.”

They are referring to the antics of backbench MPs. This week, the Tory MP for Wakefield Imran Ahmad Khan was convicted of sexual assault – something his Tory colleague Crispin Blunt called “a dreadful miscarriage of justice” before belatedly apologising for any offence caused.

The week before another Tory MP hit the news for bad behaviour – the MP for Somerton and Frome had the whip suspended after he was accused of taking cocaine and allegations of sexual harassment. Some of his colleagues hit out at how they believed he was caught up in a targeted sting operation. Mr Warburton denies all the allegations against him.

Senior government figures worry more could come out. The Tories won in places they didn’t really expect to in 2019 and that means a lot of the current MPs are not the people Conservative Campaign Headquarters would have picked if they had known victory was around the corner. “A lot of these MPs are not ideal candidates on paper and we’re starting to see that,” says one government aide."

inews.co.uk/opinion/tory-sleaze-is-back-and-there-are-plenty-of-mps-who-dont-feel-good-about-being-in-the-conservative-party-1572080

MaizieD Sun 17-Apr-22 13:10:13

Here's a new sleazy tory

Andrew Bridgen, said by the judge in a court case dealing with a family dispute, "Lied under oath, behaved in an abusive, arrogant & aggressive way…so dishonest…his claims..could not be taken at face value”

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/12ba7432-bdb8-11ec-84c4-70cc6ae427fb?shareToken=0895b04e70bf720dda63903961f9e8ff

25Avalon Wed 13-Apr-22 22:10:01

Somerset and Frome is likely to disappear under the Boundary Commission’s proposals to redraw constituency boundaries. Somerton will form a new constituency with Glastonbury, whilst Frome including Bruton ( where all the posh people are moving out to from London) will become the separate Frome constituency taking in parts of Bath and North East Somerset (currently parts of Rees- Mogg’s constituency) the Mendips and South Somerset. So it is pure speculation at this stage which are the predominant parties. Personally where I live near Bath will either be chucked in with South Gloucestershire or Frome. I’m not happy with either.

Coastpath Wed 13-Apr-22 21:29:09

There is hope then!

varian Wed 13-Apr-22 20:54:19

The Somerton and Frome constituency is partly in Mendip and partly in South Somerset. Both of these District Coucils are controlled by majority Liberal Democrat administrations.

If the disgraced Tory MP is kicked out or resigns there could be a very interesting by-election.

varian Wed 13-Apr-22 20:41:55

Currently the councillors who represent Frome on Mendip District Council are 6 Liberal Democrats, 4 Greens and only 1 Tory.

Before the disgraced David Warburton won
the Somerton and Frome constituency in 2015 it was represented by Liberal Democrat David Heath for 18 years so it is hardly a Tory stronghold.

Coastpath Wed 13-Apr-22 20:20:36

Tories not Tory's damn it!

Coastpath Wed 13-Apr-22 20:20:01

If the Tory's are getting in in Somerton and Frome it isn't the people of Frome who are voting for them. Frome has the most amazing Town Council made up entirely of Independents. It's a place with terrific community spirit e.g. it was the first place in the UK to set up a community fridge. It's a place well worth reading about.

Frome is an island in the heart of Tory country. Sadly for most Frome residents their vote will be wasted every time under our current FPTP system.

politicsreinvented.eu/model/frome-where-citizens-run-their-town-themselves/

varian Wed 13-Apr-22 18:08:35

Do you really think that the Daily Mail readers in Somerton and Frome would just ignore all the romps, drugs and dodgy Russians, because they always vote Conservative and will never reconsider no matter what David Warburton or Boris Johnson are found guilty of doing?

GillT57 Wed 13-Apr-22 17:24:36

varian

Disgraced MP David Warburton lobbied for Russian businessman who loaned him £150,000 after regulator ruled he was not a 'fit and proper person' - and complained anti-sexual harassment training was 'insane'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10704601/Disgraced-MP-David-Warburton-lobbied-Russian-businessman-loaned-150-000.html

Surely the game's up when he loses the support of the Daily Mail?

Oh I don't know, Varian. There's nothing the Tory voter likes more than a bit of vicarious sex and scandal, especially if it involves their 'betters'. Nothing more appealing than words which nobody uses in real life like romp

varian Wed 13-Apr-22 12:43:22

Disgraced MP David Warburton lobbied for Russian businessman who loaned him £150,000 after regulator ruled he was not a 'fit and proper person' - and complained anti-sexual harassment training was 'insane'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10704601/Disgraced-MP-David-Warburton-lobbied-Russian-businessman-loaned-150-000.html

Surely the game's up when he loses the support of the Daily Mail?