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Are the Royal Family losing their touch?

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volver Sun 03-Apr-22 16:22:31

A couple of weeks ago we had the disastrous PR associated with the Caribbean tour, and now the judgement of the Queen is being questioned, for giving Prince Andrew such a prominent role in the Duke of Edinburgh's memorial service.

The position of the Royal Family depends very strongly on their acceptance by, and the support of, the public both here and overseas; are they losing that?

Anniebach Sat 07-May-22 18:55:21

Perhaps not for Charles to follow but his decision , he stopped
Beatrice and Eugenie having free police protection,

If Harry was to appear on the balcony so should Peter and .Zara, Beatrice and Eugenie

Bridgeit Sat 07-May-22 19:00:21

Using the word - fascist - is inaccurate, So looses the point they were attempting to make .

Summerlove Sat 07-May-22 19:12:03

Bridgeit

So little knowledge …… across our country 1000s of folks are employed on estates that are run to produce a diversity of produce, small business are supported , young people gain skills etc. …… etc etc

Have you got links to back up these assertstions?

Summerlove Sat 07-May-22 19:13:27

Bridgeit

Using the word - fascist - is inaccurate, So looses the point they were attempting to make .

Looses? Or loses?

I’m trying to understand the meaning to your sentence

volver Sat 07-May-22 19:19:50

Summerlove

Bridgeit

So little knowledge …… across our country 1000s of folks are employed on estates that are run to produce a diversity of produce, small business are supported , young people gain skills etc. …… etc etc

Have you got links to back up these assertstions?

Oh, give me time....I'm googling frantically. wink

Parsley3 Sat 07-May-22 19:29:39

I have high hopes that Charles will modernise the monarchy. A make over is long overdue and essential if the succession is to succeed.

Ladyleftfieldlover Sat 07-May-22 19:36:44

Beatrice and her Italian Count have just got back from meeting the Swedish Queen. Doesn’t that make them working Royals?

Bridgeit Sat 07-May-22 19:41:59

Choose the one you like best, and look up Information for yourself .
Suffice to say that in some areas of the country it would cause mass redundancies.

Casdon Sat 07-May-22 19:43:27

Well, I hope the bunting is manufactured in the UK because there will be millions of metres erected in the next few weeks. My nearest town looks like the centre of the Union Jack bunting world already.

volver Sat 07-May-22 19:45:23

Bridgeit

Choose the one you like best, and look up Information for yourself .
Suffice to say that in some areas of the country it would cause mass redundancies.

So little knowledge …… across our country 1000s of folks are employed on estates that are run to produce a diversity of produce, small business are supported , young people gain skills etc. …… etc etc

OK, I’m fed up with this so I did a bit of research. There are 1,000 people employed in the royal household. So, direct employment 1,000 people. Who could still be employed by the RF or the Palaces if their jobs are so vital.

There are people employed in estates and what have you, but those estates would still exist because the people currently in the RF would still be rich posh folks with estates. So we can discount those jobs for our purposes.

So, small business support. Rich posh folks will still have enough time on their hands to support and mentor small businesses, if they want to. Sir Tom Hunter was born in New Cumnock and started off selling trainers from the back of a van. He’s now worth about a billion pounds and has donated millions to support young entrepreneurs, both practically and in training. He didn’t need to be a member of the RF to do that, so the RF can continue doing it if they want to.

Small businesses? What small businesses? The gift shop in Holyrood House? Or places that need financial support? Sir Tom’s got that covered, he can help Charles and the rest keep on doing it after the RF is no longer required for waving and document signing duties.

16,000 jobs are at risk with McColl’s going into receivership. Maybe we can sell the RF and buy McColl’s instead. It would keep more people in employment. (joke, before anyone gets offended.)

What else you got?

Bridgeit Sat 07-May-22 19:48:21

Sorry Volver, not very impressive , you still haven’t grasped the facts .

Bridgeit Sat 07-May-22 19:50:56

Don’t forget the college hands on placements for the future up keep of the agricultural requirements we will need evermore so.

volver Sat 07-May-22 19:52:56

These facts of which you speak Bridgeit, are you willing to share them?

Because if not, we'll have to assume that you have a fantasy view of the world where the economy of the country relies on the glorious generosity of The Queen and her gracious family members and the rest of us are just being kept in the dark about it.

Bridgeit Sat 07-May-22 19:53:10

Now more than ever this country needs to be ever more self sufficient .

MawtheMerrier Sat 07-May-22 19:54:12

Bridgeit

Don’t forget the college hands on placements for the future up keep of the agricultural requirements we will need evermore so.

Tractors? ???

Bridgeit Sat 07-May-22 19:54:38

Assume what you like along with your sarcasm, but perhaps you would do better to do some research for yourself.

volver Sat 07-May-22 19:55:10

Bridgeit

Don’t forget the college hands on placements for the future up keep of the agricultural requirements we will need evermore so.

What????

Are they happy rural types in smocks chewing on a straw? Is the RF single handedly supporting UK agriculture now then?

Who knew.

(BTW, that falls into management of estates which would be happening anyway.)

volver Sat 07-May-22 19:56:00

Bridgeit

Assume what you like along with your sarcasm, but perhaps you would do better to do some research for yourself.

Yes, I never do research. Well known for it. hmm

(Too sarcastic??)

Bridgeit Sat 07-May-22 19:57:08

Yes we do need more tractors , which require sophisticated adaptations to supply this country, due to the fact that trading will become increasingly difficult.

Bridgeit Sat 07-May-22 19:58:36

But hey ho let’s just turn it into a Let’s take the Ps

volver Sat 07-May-22 20:00:02

When someone turns up and keeps saying the same thing over and over, but produces no evidence to support their claims in the face of evidence that refutes it, taking the p*** is the best I can do.

Bridgeit Sat 07-May-22 20:01:50

Actually it is the worst you can do. Sad really .

Bridgeit Sat 07-May-22 20:08:36

Where is your ‘ refuting evidence’ do you know what you are refuting?

volver Sat 07-May-22 20:23:46

I'm refuting the fact that the RF are responsible for the employment of thousands of people purely by dint of being the RF.

I'm refuting the idea that replacing the RF with a republic would result in mass redundancies.

I'm willing to see the evidence that says it would, but you're not providing any.

Bridgeit Sat 07-May-22 20:31:38

Umm they are the RF, that’s what we are discussing & the fact that this provides employment across the country , especially in some rural areas where employment can be limited .