Are the Royal Family losing their touch?

I have two grownup children and three lovely grandchildren, so lets put it this way, if I substantially won the lottery, we would all benefit. So in answer to your question Mollygo, yes! Not sure about Cornwall though, or that hat!

volver

There's a bit of a difference between parents leaving their children a two up two down, and one's mummy leaving one several countries of which to be Head of State, exemption from certain fiscal laws, and the ability to be able to choose which other laws one gets to secretly amend in one's favour.

Even my atrophied old brain manages to work that out.

Of course there is.

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Those up north had faith in Boris didn’t they ?

Depends how far north you go.

volver

Depends how far north you go.

True, but Anniebach does have a very good point as far as England is concerned, it’s a reversal of traditional voting patterns. In the eyes of southerners, the north starts at Watford Gap, not at Hadrians Wall.

They are feted and fawned over just because of whose vagina they came down

should be GN quote of the week!

They are feted and fawned over by some, as are other people, usually rich ones like the Wagatha Christie pair.
There’s a bit of difference . . . Of course there is. Most people I know don’t have the money or the clout to make gifts like that. The question is would we refuse to do it if we had the means.
How many on GN would refuse to give their offspring any gifts, however expensive, if they could afford to, or were in a position to do so?
How many on GN have, or would have turned down any gifts from their parents, during or after their lifetimes?
I can certainly imagine there are those who haven’t been in a position to receive or give such gifts, but does that mean they wouldn’t if they could?

I have got nothing but admiration for these two. They've got loads medals and stuff.

This made me laugh. Sorry, but it did. ?

How many on GN have, or would have turned down any gifts from their parents, during or after their lifetimes?

Would depend on how they or their ancestors acquired the wealth/possessions.

I have no objection to people passing on anything they have worked for.

I thought the line of succession to the throne and riches could be prevented by Parliament if they thought fit, and that the successor could be denied the job if they had turned to say Catholicism or a life of crime? It isn't an automatic ticket, though I assume it would go to the next family member.

So would you refuse any inheritance that you personal had not worked for ?

Personally, no.
Just because I hadn't slogged away working in the usual sense, it might not mean that I hadn't made other sacrifices which weren't immediately apparent to others. I come back to saying it is impossible to compare and doing so can cause bitterness. I think Prince Harry touched on this somewhere in an interview.

Bridgeit

So would you refuse any inheritance that you personal had not worked for ?

That’s what I’m wondering. Do GNs refuse to pass on the results of their labours to their descendants? Do GNs turn down inheritances or gifts from parents or relatives unless they have investigated the provenance of the inheritance?

And a definition of ‘worked for’.
Who on GN decides what work counts?

I think most of us would know what we had or had not done within our families. But would we be honest to ourselves about how deserving or not we may be .. . & if we find ourselves to be undeserving what would / should we do about it?

volver

This made me laugh. Sorry, but it did. ?

What’s the point in having a deputy if you don’t use him?

From now on I hope the Queen leaves all the work stuff to Charles and we get to see her at the light hearted events she enjoys.

I would accept money/property left to me if it had been earned honestly.

I also think it's fine to pass on anything you have worked for.
The RF haven't worked for what they have.
I'm not jealous of their wealth.

nadateturbe

I would accept money/property left to me if it had been earned honestly.

And how do you decide that?
In the past captains of slaver ships believed the money had been honestly earned. Prostitutes and traffic wardens also believe their money is honestly earned, as does the lady who tries on HM’s shoes.
How far back do you want the ‘honestly earned’ to go?
If it’s just a personal belief that the money was or is honestly earned then we can all get to choose. What if someone pointed out that they did not accept that your ancestors earned the money honestly? Would you honestly hand it back?

If someone proved to me that it was obtained dishonestly in any way, I wouldn't want it.
Having wealth isn't important. Living with a clear conscience is.

Prostitutes and traffic wardens also believe their money is honestly earned, as does the lady who tries on HM’s shoes.

Traffic wardens?

Why not? Don’t you think they do an honest job of work?

nadateturbe

If someone proved to me that it was obtained dishonestly in any way, I wouldn't want it.
Having wealth isn't important. Living with a clear conscience is.

You wouldn’t want it, but that’s different from giving it back. How would you give it back? Upset your parents or family by telling them they were dishonest? How far back in time would you go?