Sending U.K. refugees to Rawanda

I thought the Trump was bad but… and this is include those that arrived in January of this year.

Japan doesn’t like to admit foreigners and they have an aging problem.

So this is forced repatriation. This is not about processing - it is a one way ticket.

It can only be repatriation if they came from Rwanda in the first place

Germanshepherdsmum

It can only be repatriation if they came from Rwanda in the first place

That is true

So not even repatriation but forced to a country you may never of heard of and don’t want to live in, that was criticised by the very government who is forcing you there, for its poor human rights record.

Nice piece by Robert Peston this evening. What follows is an extract of it. Note that he calls it "expulsion":

There are many unanswered questions about the government’s new policy of compelled expulsion to Rwanda of uninvited asylum claimants. Here are just a few.

1) What is the estimated cost per expelled refugee? None of the briefings give a clue. In its absence, how can the policy be assessed for its value for money, compared with the status quo?

2) What is the UK’s responsibility - moral, legal - if bad things (illness, accident, attack) happen to the expelled refugees after arrival in Rwanda?

3) Since the UK and Rwanda say only adults will be shipped to Rwanda, and the Home Office says families will not be broken up, how can the Home Secretary be confident she has not created a perverse incentive to malign smugglers, to carry whole families across the dangerous Channel crossing in precarious small boats, putting the lives of more children at risk?

4) Here is the UK Foreign Office’s assessment of the welfare and safety of the LGBT+ community in Rwanda: “Homosexuality is not illegal in Rwanda but remains frowned on by many. LGBT individuals can experience discrimination and abuse, including from local authorities. There are no specific anti-discrimination laws that protect LGBT individuals.” Given the UK government’s official view that LGBT people are at risk in Rwanda, will LGBT asylum seekers be expelled to Rwanda or will they be exempt?

5) How is sub-contracting to another country a profound humanitarian problem consistent with the UK’s proud history of fair play and tolerance?

And I have a last question, which is whether the mood of the UK’s voters in relation to desperate people coming to these shores has been changed by the tragedy in Ukraine - and whether the prime minister’s and home secretary’s idea of expelling asylum seekers to Rwanda will be less popular than they think.

One of the real problems will be allegations that deported migrants have been abused and mistreated in Rwanda, the news hounds will be all over that.

Migrants will deliberately cause problems just to get the news attention.

Urmstongran

Who knew Rwanda is a member of the Commonwealth?

I do. I’ve sponsored 2 girls through the charity PLAN. One is now a Doctor.

I knew too

The answer, wwm, is to stay in the safe European country you’re in or apply to come to the UK by legal means - not via the Channel.

Germanshepherdsmum

Dear God DaisyAnne. I'm not a racist.

That was a very general comment. I don't think you can say it isn't true.

Germanshepherdsmum

The answer, wwm, is to stay in the safe European country you’re in or apply to come to the UK by legal means - not via the Channel.

Is that the law? Or perhaps you would enlighten us

Are you saying I’m a racist?

? It's a Thumbs up from me Urmstongran just catching up on this thread been out all day.

Maudi

? It's a Thumbs up from me Urmstongran just catching up on this thread been out all day.

with urmstongran no doubt, in Spain

Whitewavemark2

Germanshepherdsmum

The answer, wwm, is to stay in the safe European country you’re in or apply to come to the UK by legal means - not via the Channel.

Is that the law? Or perhaps you would enlighten us

But via the Channel is not illegal - yet. And the government may not be able to get their bill through.

For those who are delighted at the prospect I fear you might be disappointed!

This scheme is doomed before it starts.

MerylStreep

Urmstongran

Who knew Rwanda is a member of the Commonwealth?

I do. I’ve sponsored 2 girls through the charity PLAN. One is now a Doctor.

Yes, Rwanda joined quite some time ago.

Well done, MerylStreep, something to be proud of.
It is so good to be able to help a young person achieve their dreams.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-accused-unveiling-rwanda-26710124.amp?gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AYc4ystF_vd2IzwnwXKVvTGzLr0M0auuoCxPwUBPUuh7w0xvTZgd8-cSedzxVJreQKU%3D&utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=discover&utm_campaign=nonpanel&gaa_ts=62588397&gaa_sig=19VLWvBTa9KKzhC-tkdyRvMje6AMJ7fOpCrZwBIqueY_wSeB7cr7pFqn2MvHeW984YMOMj5oCV-X43UAXfxvjg%3D%3D

One of the comments on the Mirror article has a good point. How much money will be poured down the drain of this project before the inevitable Uturn?

MerylStreep, - thank you for demonstrating just the qualities I mentioned in a previous post ?

Tobias Ellwood criticised the timing of controversial plans to fly people seeking sanctuary in the UK to Rwanda as Boris Johnson battles to save his political career after his Partygate fine

Is this what you were linking, Varian? It's certainly good to see Conservatives registering the wrongs of their party. Johnson should not even be making these statements while Parliament isn't standing. He simply doesn't believe any single rule has anything to do with him.

I do hope more Conservatives stand up for the truth of this.

The Left Are Having Kittens ????

I have just had the racist card played against me again as I agree with the Ukrainian women and children being allowed to come over legally whilst being open in my opinions that illegal immigrants crossing the Channel are not welcome.

This was my response ??

Just in case you have limited understanding then here goes. The women and children leaving Ukraine are fleeing for their lives whilst the men stay behind to fight in the hope their women and children can return one day. The illegal immigrants are 95% young men fleeing France where there is no war and have left their own women and children behind in their original country. They then pay 5k to come over fuelling the traffickers trade. Now have lie down and see if you can understand what 90% of the population can.

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Lee Anderson MP

I do not know whether this will come to fruition. I would be anti if these people had not come in the back door. We have no clue whether they bring disease, are terrorists in waiting or just looking for free board and lodging!

Real asylum seekers apply and wait to be processed. If the strong young men can be given a new start and a base in another country it seems like a good idea.

Disease-ridden terrorist scroungers. ?

LilyoftheValley

I do not know whether this will come to fruition. I would be anti if these people had not come in the back door. We have no clue whether they bring disease, are terrorists in waiting or just looking for free board and lodging!

Real asylum seekers apply and wait to be processed. If the strong young men can be given a new start and a base in another country it seems like a good idea.

Real asylum seekers don't get an opportunity in their own country to be processed.