Is this Boris’s latest attempt to divert us all from dwelling on the fact that he repeatedly lied to parliament?
The Lee Anderson MP quoted above is also the Lee Anderson MP who said about Black Lives Matter -
"For the first time in my life I will not be watching my beloved England team whilst they are supporting a political movement whose core principles aim to undermine our very way of life."
and repeating this fake news and you are repeating this fake news.
I will apologise happily if you can show facts to back up what you have posted.
Maudi
The Left Are Having Kittens ????
I have just had the racist card played against me again as I agree with the Ukrainian women and children being allowed to come over legally whilst being open in my opinions that illegal immigrants crossing the Channel are not welcome.
This was my response ??
Just in case you have limited understanding then here goes. The women and children leaving Ukraine are fleeing for their lives whilst the men stay behind to fight in the hope their women and children can return one day. The illegal immigrants are 95% young men fleeing France where there is no war and have left their own women and children behind in their original country. They then pay 5k to come over fuelling the traffickers trade. Now have lie down and see if you can understand what 90% of the population can.
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Maundi, Lee Anderson MP is simply lying and ignorant.
What 90% of the country is he suggesting back the course the government is trying to illegally use? In a YouGov survey, taken just hours after Johnson announced his scheme, they found 42% opposed it and only 35% supported it. Have we got another case of "lies, I see no lies"?
The people from Ukraine have a place to go to where it is safe for women and children. There is also still a war being fought there which men and women who can, have stayed to fight. The situations where families send young men do not compare.
Of the people coming by boat from France even Johnson didn't have the gall to lie to the extreme and say 95% are young men. The people coming in this way are not "illegal immigrants".
This man has learned to lie from the best and repeating this fake news. This may be the sort of lying ignorance you want to boast about but it is still lying ignorance.
I have been ashamed of my country many times for instances of trampling over others in the past; I seemed to be saying 'sorry' for something or other every holiday.
But now I am ashamed of my country in the present day - from the prorogation of parliament through the lies and deceit and the churlish back-stabbing to this latest off the wall idea, I am so deeply ashamed to be British.
The Rwandans said 'no' to this idea when they were asked about it a year or so ago. I wonder why they changed their minds?
Sad to see that bigotry, ignorance and racism are alive and well in this country of my birth
Alive and well in Scotland too, Paddyanne I am sorry to say.at least in my small Borders town.
I can only hope that our DC and DGC generation will be tolerant, generous and humane.
Of course we should not be sending desperate people to Rwanda.
Coastpath
Yesterday I spent a lot of time thinking how people who describe themselves as having a Christian faith can support the lies and cruel policies of this government. This Rwanda concept has made me question this even more today.
All faiths from Humanist to Hindu (that's you isn't it Pritti) set great store by the importance of kindness to others from any country, especially those in need.
I have no faith but for anyone interested here's what the Bible says about immigrants. Hard to tally with some opinons on here.
“When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not wrong him. The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as one of your citizens; you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt” (Lev. 19:33-34).
I do have a Christian faith Coastpath and like you I cannot understand how Christians in particular can fail to heed the very passage you quote. ?
I’m still recovering from a recent illness that has messed up my brain and my emotions, so it may be that, but today I actually cried reading some of these posts. I’m usually made of sterner stuff, but for me these are not ‘economic migrants’, ‘refugees’ and ‘illegal immigrants’.
They’re the young man from Sri Lanka who wept in my arms as he described seeing his father and brother shot in front of him and at a later date called me, with great pride, to tell me he had been made manager of his local Co-Op store because of his excellent work ethic.
They’re the Afghan boys who call me their English mum and who studied day and night to learn English, then worked two or three crappy jobs at a time to save up and jointly buy their own business - to fulfil their desire to, and I quote them verbatim, “pay English taxes”.
They’re the chap who came to stay with us who was so traumatised by the torture he’d endured and the killings he’d witnessed that he could barely speak.
And the government of my country, and some of the people in my country, would be happy to send these traumatised, psychologically damaged people to a small African state that has a dreadful human rights record - and if they are found to be ‘deserving’ of asylum TO KEEP THEM THERE. How, literally, in the name of God, can a Christian not only condone that, but approve of it?
With love and support each of these single, unaccompanied, males have found a safe harbour in a country they are proud to call home and are now contributors to the success of their adopted country.
Katie59
One of the real problems will be allegations that deported migrants have been abused and mistreated in Rwanda, the news hounds will be all over that.
Migrants will deliberately cause problems just to get the news attention.
Of all the unpleasant posts, this one stood out for me.
It seems to me inevitable that asylum seekers will be ‘abused and mistreated in Rwanda. Institutions are rife with abuse. Rwanda doesn’t have a good human rights record
Still, why should we worry? We can simply dismiss any complaints as from folks ‘deliberately causing problems just to get the news attention’
Maudi
The Left Are Having Kittens ????
I have just had the racist card played against me again as I agree with the Ukrainian women and children being allowed to come over legally whilst being open in my opinions that illegal immigrants crossing the Channel are not welcome.
This was my response ??
Just in case you have limited understanding then here goes. The women and children leaving Ukraine are fleeing for their lives whilst the men stay behind to fight in the hope their women and children can return one day. The illegal immigrants are 95% young men fleeing France where there is no war and have left their own women and children behind in their original country. They then pay 5k to come over fuelling the traffickers trade. Now have lie down and see if you can understand what 90% of the population can.
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Where's the evidence that the figure is 95%?
Whoever Lee Anderson is needs to come up with some evidence too.
LilyoftheValley
I do not know whether this will come to fruition. I would be anti if these people had not come in the back door. We have no clue whether they bring disease, are terrorists in waiting or just looking for free board and lodging!
Real asylum seekers apply and wait to be processed. If the strong young men can be given a new start and a base in another country it seems like a good idea.
Real asylum seekers don't get an opportunity in their own country to be processed.
Disease-ridden terrorist scroungers. ?
I do not know whether this will come to fruition. I would be anti if these people had not come in the back door. We have no clue whether they bring disease, are terrorists in waiting or just looking for free board and lodging!
Real asylum seekers apply and wait to be processed. If the strong young men can be given a new start and a base in another country it seems like a good idea.
The Left Are Having Kittens ????
I have just had the racist card played against me again as I agree with the Ukrainian women and children being allowed to come over legally whilst being open in my opinions that illegal immigrants crossing the Channel are not welcome.
This was my response ??
Just in case you have limited understanding then here goes. The women and children leaving Ukraine are fleeing for their lives whilst the men stay behind to fight in the hope their women and children can return one day. The illegal immigrants are 95% young men fleeing France where there is no war and have left their own women and children behind in their original country. They then pay 5k to come over fuelling the traffickers trade. Now have lie down and see if you can understand what 90% of the population can.
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Tobias Ellwood criticised the timing of controversial plans to fly people seeking sanctuary in the UK to Rwanda as Boris Johnson battles to save his political career after his Partygate fine
Is this what you were linking, Varian? It's certainly good to see Conservatives registering the wrongs of their party. Johnson should not even be making these statements while Parliament isn't standing. He simply doesn't believe any single rule has anything to do with him.
I do hope more Conservatives stand up for the truth of this.
MerylStreep, - thank you for demonstrating just the qualities I mentioned in a previous post ?
One of the comments on the Mirror article has a good point. How much money will be poured down the drain of this project before the inevitable Uturn?
MerylStreep
Urmstongran
Who knew Rwanda is a member of the Commonwealth?
I do. I’ve sponsored 2 girls through the charity PLAN. One is now a Doctor.
Yes, Rwanda joined quite some time ago.
Well done, MerylStreep, something to be proud of.
It is so good to be able to help a young person achieve their dreams.
For those who are delighted at the prospect I fear you might be disappointed!
This scheme is doomed before it starts.
Whitewavemark2
Germanshepherdsmum
The answer, wwm, is to stay in the safe European country you’re in or apply to come to the UK by legal means - not via the Channel.
Is that the law? Or perhaps you would enlighten us
But via the Channel is not illegal - yet. And the government may not be able to get their bill through.
Maudi
? It's a Thumbs up from me Urmstongran just catching up on this thread been out all day.
with urmstongran no doubt, in Spain
? It's a Thumbs up from me Urmstongran just catching up on this thread been out all day.
Are you saying I’m a racist?
Germanshepherdsmum
The answer, wwm, is to stay in the safe European country you’re in or apply to come to the UK by legal means - not via the Channel.
Is that the law? Or perhaps you would enlighten us
Germanshepherdsmum
Dear God DaisyAnne. I'm not a racist.
That was a very general comment. I don't think you can say it isn't true.
The answer, wwm, is to stay in the safe European country you’re in or apply to come to the UK by legal means - not via the Channel.
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