Oh Nicola! We’re not as green as we’re cabbage looking! ???????

Urmstongran

^Cos its my bl**dy country she's having a go at and ignoring isn't an option. That really is a pathetic comment.^

volver you have an awful lot to say about Boris and the Tory government! I never say ‘butt out you don’t live here!’.

You are entitled to an opinion on whatever topic you like.
As I am.
?

volver you have an awful lot to say about Boris and the Tory government! I never say *‘butt out you don’t live here!’.

Urmstongran.

I live in the UK. They are my government too. ??‍♀️

But when people tell lies about my country my OP isn’t a lie volver! That was the whole point of this thread. Where is the paperwork Nicola?

Urmstongran

^What do you love? The wild mountain time and the bonnie banks of Loch Lomond?^. Definitely that volver on our annual trips up to the Highlands. Such beauty driving through Glencoe! Takes my breath away every time.

I find it heartening that so many Scots don’t want independence. So much so, I do wonder if Indy2 is a busted flush? Time will tell.

Hang on, I'll just put on my kilt and dance you a Highland Fling.

Cos its my bl**dy country she's having a go at and ignoring isn't an option. That really is a pathetic comment.

volver you have an awful lot to say about Boris and the Tory government! I never say ‘butt out you don’t live here!’.

You are entitled to an opinion on whatever topic you like.
As I am.
?

Baggs

volver

Baggs

People who find the OP's obsession interest in Scotland's affairs tiresome could just ignore the threads she starts. Why don't they? Why do they feel defensive?

Cos its my bl**dy country she's having a go at and ignoring isn't an option. That really is a pathetic comment.

It is an option, volv. She's only one person. Why do you care so much what she thinks if you think she's wrong anyway?

Some people will never change their ill-founded opinions.

However we are often told that there are "thousands" of people who read and never post (Hello, if you are there ).

So they see posts about corruption, and lost paperwork and all the rest of it, and someone has got to put the other side of the story. Many of us do. The side that has more basis in truth that the biased stories of the Telegraph and old men who left the country decades ago.

The day I stop caring when people tell lies about my country in public is the day you can shoot me.

What do you love? The wild mountain time and the bonnie banks of Loch Lomond?. Definitely that volver on our annual trips up to the Highlands. Such beauty driving through Glencoe! Takes my breath away every time.

I find it heartening that so many Scots don’t want independence. So much so, I do wonder if Indy2 is a busted flush? Time will tell.

volver

Baggs

People who find the OP's obsession interest in Scotland's affairs tiresome could just ignore the threads she starts. Why don't they? Why do they feel defensive?

Cos its my bl**dy country she's having a go at and ignoring isn't an option. That really is a pathetic comment.

It is an option, volv. She's only one person. Why do you care so much what she thinks if you think she's wrong anyway?

Baggs

People who find the OP's obsession interest in Scotland's affairs tiresome could just ignore the threads she starts. Why don't they? Why do they feel defensive?

Cos its my bl**dy country she's having a go at and ignoring isn't an option. That really is a pathetic comment.

volver

I don't comment on Welsh politics or on Mr Drakeford. I have no insight into that country or how its Assembly operates. If Mr Drakeford is not a good FM, that's got nothing to do with me. (I seriously don't know if he is)

They might be in the Union but the rest of us don't "own" them and we don't get a say.

Volver do you remember the endless threads on President Trump when he was POTUS?

So many on here knew all about him, how he governed what the wo/man in the street in USA thought about him, this knowledge mainly gained from Newspapers and the internet, should we not have had opinions ?

I am obviously not getting the difference between any Scotland related threads and other Country/leaders threads.

If we are only to discuss or be interested in the Country we live in, our worlds would be extremely self absorbed and small. I am interested in many Countries and their political parties/leaders.

time thyme

People who find the OP's obsession interest in Scotland's affairs tiresome could just ignore the threads she starts. Why don't they? Why do they feel defensive?

Urmstongran

I ❤️ Scotland. And I have never belittled it’s residents.

Yes you have.

You have repeatedly told us that we are sleepwalking into independence and that Nicola is telling us what to do, that we have an undying love for a person or party that is ruining our country. (I paraphrase)

I ❤️ Scotland is meaningless. What do you love? The wild mountain time and the bonnie banks of Loch Lomond? Tomnahurich and the Brahan Seer maybe? (Ask your stepdad). I love Scotland for its innovation, its openness and its modernity. And the occasional nice mountain.

I have started threads on Wales in the past. ?

^ I assume he could not have have been called upon to fight and defend Scotland.^

Hmm. He was based in Kenya during WW2 and his brother (still alive) was on active service in the North Atlantic convoys. Scary stuff the tales he shares. Does that count Daisyanne?

Thank you Marydoll. It all becomes so tiresome when the OP chooses one particular country out of the many discussed on GN, to repeatedly highlight any problem again and again.

Obviously those in other countries we discuss will not be aware of such threads, I would think, therefore have no opportunity to voice their opinion.

I don't comment on Welsh politics or on Mr Drakeford. I have no insight into that country or how its Assembly operates. If Mr Drakeford is not a good FM, that's got nothing to do with me. (I seriously don't know if he is)

They might be in the Union but the rest of us don't "own" them and we don't get a say.

No probs Baggs! Great minds think alike. ?

GrannyGravy13

We have threads discussing Ukraine, USA, The French Elections in fact many Countries are discussed on the News & Politics Forums by members of GN who do not live in these Countries or in some cases never visited them.

Why is it that Scotland and in particular Ms.Sturgeon and SNP are off limits ?

I think the posters who live in France feel exactly the same about people who don’t live there telling them how bad it is under Macron to be fair GG13. The pointed attacks about other countries usually come from the same few posters.

I ❤️ Scotland. And I have never belittled it’s residents.

soz x posts, urms

DaisyAnne

Scotland is not off-limits GrannyGravy. However, we do not discuss Ukraine, the USA, or France as if we have ownership or agency over those countries.

They are not and have never been part of the UK. I think that makes a difference. The difference, even.

Ug your concern for countries other than England is admirable. I hope the state of Scotland as you see it doesn't keep you awake at night. With all due respect, your stepfather's opinion is his own. There is no need for you to adopt it as, correct me if I am wrong, you have no experience of living here at all. Have faith that we can sort things out for ourselves as you can see from the posts that there are arguments from both sides of the political divide. Meanwhile, I hope that you and your stepfather get the candidate of your choice in the upcoming local elections.

Maybe because those other countries are not part of our Union DaisyAnne? Big difference.

GrannyGravy13

We have threads discussing Ukraine, USA, The French Elections in fact many Countries are discussed on the News & Politics Forums by members of GN who do not live in these Countries or in some cases never visited them.

Why is it that Scotland and in particular Ms.Sturgeon and SNP are off limits ?

They're not off limits.

Not at all. A sensible discussion about the ferry situation would be great. Maybe a discussion about the sea bed sell off. Or maybe the status of the renewables industry.

But like for all the other countries, if someone comes on and rants about the leaders of other countries, and just does a number on that person and the country they lead based only on prejudice, and belittles the people of that country, they are going to get tellt

Kalu I find it interesting is all. You may note I recently started a thread on the French GE too! And others in the past as GG13 has said. Why not?