Putin - cancer surgery

Whilst so many on here seem to think that the death of Putin would alter anything I do not understand.

Perhaps part of our media's reporting that puts it all down to one man. Putin's appointed deputy seems to be cut from the same political cloth, and could be even worse,

If Putin was assassinated, it would indicate that there were enough powerful elements in his government who did not agree with this course of action. It would catalyse a situation where it became apparent that a lot of this was down to one man and his ability to lead or mislead others into this dangerous action. But that there were opponents in positions of power.

On the other hand, it could be positioned as coming from the West, and that Russians would have to fight back. But at least Putin would be out of the picture and the Russians would have a basis for real negotiations.

I really would say - 'Just be careful about what you wish for'

Fair comment Franbern. But it is true that this situation has come about under Putin's leadership and won't end until that leadership ends.

Let us face it - our media reporting is probably nearly as biased as that in Russia.

So, we really have no idea at all how popular or not Putin and his cronies really are. A lot of our speculation is based entirely on what we would like it to be there - not on any realities.

If you were a Russian, reading and listening to the propoganda there, you would be convinced that that NATO countries are deliberately trying to control, by every possible means, those countries on the borders of Russia and preventing patriots in those countries from being able control their own futures.

I dislike this man intensely. I would say hate, but I think it’s wrong to hate other human beings. I certainly hate what he’s responsible for and I hate the suffering he has caused. If he had caused the death of one of my beloveds I think I would happily say hate. I wonder if hating someone reflects poorly on me.
I have no hesitation in saying I hope he suffers during his illness. If he dies I don’t know what would happen. It could be just as bad, or worse, or it could be better.
I’ll happily and without conscience say I loathe him and everything to do with him.
When I visited St Petersburg I loved the city and it’s history was so interesting. I always wanted to visit Moscow too, but I never will now. My husband and I are agreed that whatever happens in the future we will not put money into the Russian economy by visiting Russia again.

The whole regime needs to go starting with Putin.

Franbern

Whilst so many on here seem to think that the death of Putin would alter anything I do not understand.

Perhaps part of our media's reporting that puts it all down to one man. Putin's appointed deputy seems to be cut from the same political cloth, and could be even worse,

The actions of Putin's successor would depend very much on how much control he has of the machinery of repression.

I wonder how much attachment the Russian army has to the regime that has exposed them to humiliation in the 'Special Operation'?

Just reading that the USA thinks that Putin is about to declare war on ukraine. I’m not sure that they will notice the difference, but apparently it means that they can use more/bigger artillery.

snowberryZ

I can kind of see where Granny'70s is coming from.
He's a despicable character and somebody needs to stop him. But to wish him to be tortured and to die a slow and painful death makes us no better than him, or no better than those 'people' in places like Saudi Arabia who enjoy watching public flogging, stonings, beheadings and other barbaric sub-human practices that apparently are still happening in this day and age.
I'd like to think we've evolved to become better people than that.

I agree with you. He's an absolute monster and the world would be a better place without him. But I don't see what we would gain by him suffering.

I mean, I wouldn't have any great sympathy, but I wouldn't wish it on him either.

snowberryZ

I can kind of see where Granny'70s is coming from.
He's a despicable character and somebody needs to stop him. But to wish him to be tortured and to die a slow and painful death makes us no better than him, or no better than those 'people' in places like Saudi Arabia who enjoy watching public flogging, stonings, beheadings and other barbaric sub-human practices that apparently are still happening in this day and age.
I'd like to think we've evolved to become better people than that.

Thank goodness. I was beginning to worry about the vicious thinking of some people on this thread.

I dont think our press or media is 'nearly' as bad as Russia.
I also feel we should be careful what we wish for.
In any case, the regime as a whole has to be seen to be beaten. Because China is in the wings.

The vicious thinking is on behalf of the Ukrainians whose children have been murdered, their homes destroyed and their whole way of life ended to satisfy one megalomaniac.
I would like to see him tried for his crimes and spend his last years, if he has that long, in prison.
Why should he get away with the atrocities he has committed.

I would like to see him whisked away from the hospital where he is being treated and taken to The Hague. The list of his crimes is enormous. When he is found guilty, which he will be, he should be kept in solitary confinement for the rest of his life.

The persistence, duration and uniformity of these reports - cancer, Parkinsons, dementia? - suggests that they have some substance in dact.

Is the man who will deputise for him,the one on record as threatening to wipe Britain off the map with nuclear bombs that will cause a huge tsunami and leave the British Isles forever a radio active desert? Wouldn't that by jumping out of the frying pan into a huge firy furnace?

Just a query, how many of those of you who just want to see him dead, dying in pain etc etc are opposed to capital punishement?

I just want him out, with a bit of luck he will so scare his colleaguues, with his recent statements that the yes men around him will rise up and do what they did with Kruschev, and just remove him.

Chestnut

Why is it terrible to want him gone? This individual is responsible for untold suffering. He has his hand on the nuclear button and is unlikely to accept any kind of defeat. He may be the Anti Christ (those who know their Bibles will know what I'm talking about). He certainly fits the bill and has the ability to bring about Armageddon.

Unfortunately, he’s not the Anti Christ. He is yet to come. He will appear to bring worldly peace, and bring all Nations together, under one world government, for a few years. He will completely deceive....even Christians. Then all hell ( literally), will break loose.

Putin is evil beyond evil. No one is deceived by him. He’s completely obvious.

Franbern

Whilst so many on here seem to think that the death of Putin would alter anything I do not understand.

Perhaps part of our media's reporting that puts it all down to one man. Putin's appointed deputy seems to be cut from the same political cloth, and could be even worse,

Agree....there’ll always be the next in line.

Careful M0nica. You might just fall off that moral high ground and hurt yourself.

Nuclear bombs and a tsunami? I think you need to review your reading material. Just like Dmitry Kiselyov.

When I have principles I stick to them, and you cannot say you are opposed to capital punishment and then condemn, other people, no matter how heinous their crimes, to death.

I had a jewish friend who was opposed to capital punishement at the time Adolf Eichman, the dogsbody who organised and ran the Holocaust came up for trial in Israel.

He found that he felt that the only punishment sufficient for Eichman's crimes was death and formally declared he could no longer advocate the abolishment of the death penalty because he was advocating it in one case, my view is no different.

It just struck me that Kiselyov was as certifiable at Putin. If he were to take charge, even only temporarily, we would know with certainity that, that the Russia government is a lunatic assylum, andcontrol is definitely in the hands of the lunatics.

I think that is Vladimir Solovyov, M0nica

Kiselyov is a TV presenter.

Yes

Just read that there may be a coup to depose Putin. Generals and senior security staff unhappy at Russian losses. Please God can they prevail and bring this cruel atrocity to an end.

Here's the tweet

you cannot say you are opposed to capital punishment and then condemn, other people, no matter how heinous their crimes, to death.

I, personally, didn't.

I said we shouldn't kill him, and I am opposed to the death penalty in all circumstances.