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Mr. Johnson live on GMB 8.30 today

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GrannyGravy13 Tue 03-May-22 08:35:14

Just that really

Jenh66 Wed 04-May-22 12:53:07

Out of touch. Out of his depth. Typical posh Etonian who's had his world handed to him on a served on a silver platter. Typical of someone who's in the Westminster bubble. But I ask, which one of any party is any different?
Suzanna Reid did interrupt alot but she was trying to keep to the issues at hand. I'm no fan of hers. The media on all channels is too divisive and political thesedays.

OakDryad Wed 04-May-22 12:54:49

I thought Reid did extremely well trying again and again to bring Johnson back to current and immediate needs.

Whether or not we spend hundred of millions of pounds arming Ukraine; whether BP, which is profiting hugely from downstream oil and petrol prices, has a billion less to invest in upstream projects because of a one-off windfall tax; or whether someone might get a high-paid job in the future is of little relevance when you are old, alone, cold and hungry and reduced to riding the bus all day because it’s warmer. It’s a Trolley problem. Do we sacrifice Elsie for, in capitalist eyes, the greater good? I think Johnson would.

Taichinan Wed 04-May-22 12:55:49

"All Boris cares about is Boris and power". Heathcliffe that is all any senior politician cares about anywhere. That why Putin's in Ukraine. They really are all the same - it goes with their rank. They are all just big gorillas, beating their chests and roaring - except that's an insult to gorillas.

susytish Wed 04-May-22 12:57:17

As previously mentioned, the way he was sitting was just awful. Doesn't he have people advising him on how to present himself? Amazing how his hair changes depending on where he is, I have noticed! The split screen was inspired, you could see Susannah's reactions throughout. So many lies. He just loves being in the forefront, but doesn't tell the truth. Unfortunately some folk believe him and think he is wonderful!

Lizzie44 Wed 04-May-22 13:15:17

Boris's lies and arrogance know no boundaries. He arrived 15 mins late for the interview. He doesn't care about Elsie or anybody except himself. He won't change. How much longer can he survive?

Flakesdayout Wed 04-May-22 13:57:14

I saw it first thing and then watched it again. Not that I am a fan of Susannah Reid but I thought she did quite a good job. BJ is a shameful excuse for a PM and the way he was sitting was cringe worthy. I saw the initial piece on Elsie and it is shameful that the system treats people like this, and also the couple with the disabled children. Boris needs a reality check. Let him try and manage on what many people have to. We have our chance to say what we think in tomorrows election, even if it is to write a comment on the ballot paper. I know where my vote will not be going.

growstuff Wed 04-May-22 13:58:59

OakDryad I knew that council tax was based on 1991 values. I was just surprised that a council house would have been valued so highly. However, it doesn't really matter. The point is that Elsie is receiving Pension Credit, so she must be quite poor. Johnson should at the very least have shown some empathy.

madeleine45 Wed 04-May-22 13:59:07

I didnt bother to watch as what is the point of watching a proven liar. Whatever he says cant be trusted.

grannyactivist Wed 04-May-22 14:14:27

Twitter is awash with Tories and Tory bots denying that Elsie is real. So Age UK have tweeted in response to confirm that not only is Elsie ‘real’, but they are supporting her.

It’s ironic that ‘bots’ (not actual people) are denying the existence of an actual woman.

grannyactivist Wed 04-May-22 14:26:47

Brownowl564

OakDryad
Reid’s faux outrage is pathetic, if you ask a question have the good grace to allow someone to answer.
Elsie is a made up load of rubbish, someone in a F band house does not ride the bus all day to keep warm , if it was a council house, no way would they allow a single person to stay on a family home and a smaller place would be more practical and a lot cheaper and if she owns it then sell it and downsize or equity release

Perhaps in view of the evidence presented above you might like to rethink your comment Brownowl564?

GrannyO Wed 04-May-22 14:29:28

Johnson says what he thinks his audience wants to hear. Always has. It means nothing.

Jenh66 Wed 04-May-22 14:44:39

Tomorrow's elections are local not national. I've always voted for who will provide the best services and tackle local issues. It seems the media, again, have managed to blur the lines. I'm sure the Conservatives will get a hammering but that's not going to change the national picture. A hiding locally may cause Tory MPs to turn their backs on Boris and call for a leadership resignation, but that doesn't mean there'd be a general election.

Boris Johnson has been out of his depth for a long time and certainly isn't the kind of person you'd want running your country. He's the personification of the spoilt entitled elitist that exists in politics thesedays. Westminster is toxic

OakDryad Wed 04-May-22 14:46:59

Brownowl564

OakDryad
Reid’s faux outrage is pathetic, if you ask a question have the good grace to allow someone to answer.
Elsie is a made up load of rubbish, someone in a F band house does not ride the bus all day to keep warm , if it was a council house, no way would they allow a single person to stay on a family home and a smaller place would be more practical and a lot cheaper and if she owns it then sell it and downsize or equity release

Brownow1564

Reid explained that Elsie lives in a council house. The bedroom entitlement rules do not apply to pensioners living in social housing accomodation such as council or housing association properties.

www.entitledto.co.uk/help/under-occupation

Elsie’s house is band F (not E my mistake - apologies growstuff) but, as I have explained upthread, many London council houses can fall into bands higher that D. My family’s example was based on the market value of a very small council house in an outer London Borough. Small living room, small kitchen, pre-fab bathroom tacked on the back in the 1960s. I don’t know where Elsie lives. Maybe her house is in an Inner London borough. That could easily have been rated F in 1991.

Ah! I’ve just seen that Elsie is now being supported by Age UK in Westminster which explains the high band.

effalump Wed 04-May-22 14:52:15

Aside from any of the lies he spouts, as a human being he really does not demand respect from anyone. He plays the buffoon, he lies through his teeth and the man can't even keep his hair under control. He make Mr Bean look like a Statesman. The sooner we get someone with 'presence' and actually speaks as though he feels obligated to work for the people the who pay his salary and his dinner bill, the better. Many Americans are apologising for the state of their homeland under the 'control' (yeah, right) of a man who clearly has dementia while we have a Fool as a Leader. He's not a good advert for Eton College as a place to gain super knowledge.

kjmpde Wed 04-May-22 15:00:03

it was a waste of time and effort as no real answers.

nadateturbe Wed 04-May-22 15:09:12

Brownowl564

OakDryad
Reid’s faux outrage is pathetic, if you ask a question have the good grace to allow someone to answer.
Elsie is a made up load of rubbish, someone in a F band house does not ride the bus all day to keep warm , if it was a council house, no way would they allow a single person to stay on a family home and a smaller place would be more practical and a lot cheaper and if she owns it then sell it and downsize or equity release

I think it's disgusting to make an old person move out of their home. How heartless can you get.
I think interviewers are right to push if people are trying to avoid answering.

Aveline Wed 04-May-22 15:14:22

So are you all not very keen on Boris? grin

flump Wed 04-May-22 15:31:14

There have been series made where rich young people were paired with much less well off families so they could get an idea of how they managed in their daily lives. With most youngsters it had a profound effect on them, making them realise how privileged they were.

Although I wouldn't foist any of them on a family, perhaps a dose of reality for the PM and some MP's might enlighten them too. Give them a very limited budget for a week or two and see how they cope; with strict rules that they couldn't get money or help from anyone else. I think many might flounder.

CoolCoco Wed 04-May-22 15:31:41

A pretty modest terrace or flat in inner London can easily be in band F.

Dinahmo Wed 04-May-22 15:34:45

kjmpde

it was a waste of time and effort as no real answers.

Not really - more people will have seen what a lying toad he is.

Grantanow Wed 04-May-22 15:43:44

Johnson is disgusting and so are most of his self-seeking Cabinet, defending the indefensible. I'm not surprised he thinks it's OK for a pensioner to stay on buses to keep warm. If Tory MPs had an ounce of decency they would depose him now.

HousePlantQueen Wed 04-May-22 16:14:25

Brownowl564

OakDryad
Reid’s faux outrage is pathetic, if you ask a question have the good grace to allow someone to answer.
Elsie is a made up load of rubbish, someone in a F band house does not ride the bus all day to keep warm , if it was a council house, no way would they allow a single person to stay on a family home and a smaller place would be more practical and a lot cheaper and if she owns it then sell it and downsize or equity release

Sorry Nadine, you have got it all wrong again.

Wheniwasyourage Wed 04-May-22 17:43:13

grin

Oldbat1 Wed 04-May-22 22:01:08

Boris Johnson is absolutely hopeless at interviews. He avoids them which is about the only thing he is good at. I thought she did her best to keep him on track. Reminded him all facts he uttered would be being checked and still he lied. What a disgrace to the UK he is.

Saetana Wed 04-May-22 22:15:50

Daftbag1

I'd be surprised if Elsie will get the £150 being paid to those paying band a - d council tax. If, as I understand, Elsie is in receipt of Pension credit guarantee, she will not be paying council tax. Those pensioners of us not paying council tax due to being on the lowest income, won't be entitled to this £150 credit. Obviously because we can ride on buses all day to keep warm!

Anyone who is in council tax bands A-D will get the £150 - even if they get full council tax rebate. I have a copy of the government document for councils which confirms this. It will however take longer as we (I am in this category) do not have direct debits set up with the council so each individual council has to work out how they are going to pay us. I believe "Elsie" is in a higher council tax band - which begs a question in itself - there is a discretionary fund for councils to help people in that situation who are in genuine hardship. I'm a little sceptical about "Elsie" myself - the media always seem to manage to drag up some apparently awful case to demonstrate whatever political point they are trying to score and her case sounds particularly suspect.