Queens Speech

Prince Charles performed the role beautifully this morning.

GrammyGrammy

25Avalon

Henetha, why should she retire? All of this is very ageist. If she wants to continue then the constitution allows that she can. She will be very well aware of this.

My thoughts too. The AGEISM on this thread by 'Grans' is despicable. The self-loathing of older ladies is putrid. We women are widely discarded and invisible and unwanted as we get older and we now believe the disgusting narrative? What happened to valuing the wisdom of the years? What happened to love and respect for our Queen? Many of you disgust me.

I don't love the Queen. I've never met the woman, but I'm sure she is very dutiful. Maybe she is wise as well, who knows? We don't get to hear her opinion on anything, do we? Allowing the illegal propagation of Parliament in 2019 wasn't very "wise". And she was the only one who could stop it. And she didn't.

What I find "putrid" is the blind devotion, and the belief that anybody who questions the status quo is a woman hating anarchist, or something.

I agree fanny. If God's representative on earth had the sense to retire when he felt he could no longer do the job then so can the Queen.
She's done her job over all these years time to sit back and relax or are the family such a handful a load of men bickering all the time that she feels she still needs to keep them in check?
Monarchs in other countries do it so why can't ours.

Perhaps Prince Charles does not want the Queen to stand down just yet. Appointing him Regent after the Jubilee might be the most diplomatic and practical solution.

Brownowl564

Bol we
It’s hardly a post, it’s a life long calling and she has mobility issues and does not want to be seen in a wheelchair plus with Charles standing in on this and other occasions ,it could be seen as a transition

He is reading it with authority and dispassionately as befits The Crown. It is not an audition for X Factor.

25Avalon

Henetha, why should she retire? All of this is very ageist. If she wants to continue then the constitution allows that she can. She will be very well aware of this.

My thoughts too. The AGEISM on this thread by 'Grans' is despicable. The self-loathing of older ladies is putrid. We women are widely discarded and invisible and unwanted as we get older and we now believe the disgusting narrative? What happened to valuing the wisdom of the years? What happened to love and respect for our Queen? Many of you disgust me.

Absolutely

As I understand it, The Queen cannot retire entirely in any formal sense as there is no constitution means for her make the choice to do so another than abdication. This would, in effect a renunciation or abandonment of her duties.

Whatever one's view of the monarchy, the Queen has served loyally for almost 70 years in a role that she was not born to do and would arguably not have had to do but for her uncle's abdication and the controversy which still reverberates around that. I doubt very much that she would ever abdicate.

I don’t suppose for one moment that there aren’t discussions going about the future of the monarchy, in terms of accession if nothing else. Prince Charles is already an old man and may not feel physically able to assume all the responsiblities of the position.

I don't think anyone's saying she can't retire Fanny but it's her decision and no one else's.

As you've posted Treelover Charles can become regent.

Well of course we now know that Charles read the speech.
HM has only become so frail since the death of the D of E. I'm sure there is a plan, depending on how exactly she fares.
I for one am happy to see the monarchy continue albeit in a form more fitting to modern times. I'm sure HM understands the need to modernise.

volver

Young pregnant women can resume their duties once the child has arrived.

Old women who can't do the job because of age will never be able to do the job again.

And it was twice.

Being our Monarch is not 'a job' but a lifelong position. One that is not health dependant. God save The Queen!

Crazygran

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN !

From what exactly CrazyGran?

I haven’t read the whole thread; I’ve jumped from p5 to here. (We all know these things get repetitive)

But I do think that if the Pope can retire, then the British monarch can.
(I’ve said that previously, and someone disagreed, saying that HM was far more important than the Pope)

It does appear that the time for her to retire is now.
The Queen is dealing with things which are extremely predictable, if not inevitable; and there doesn’t seem to have been much forethought going on.

I think it is very sad that people seem to want to abolish the monarchy, they are castigated at every turn and before you all say we pay for them, they have given back much more . I for one am proud to have them .

twinnytwin

Well I support the Queen and think she's done a wonderful job over all the years. I really don't like the way this post is going and some of the nasty comment about her. Shameful.

You can try. But. Over my dead body, and many others'.

volver

DH and I have just been discussing this, actually. There are actually very few constitutional duties for our monarch, but delivering the Queen's Speech is one of them. If she can't do it, then why is she persisting in the post?

It is not a 'post'.

aggie

The daftest sight , a crown in a car as if !

Its own car and its own seat! It doesn’t mix with any old Crown Jewels.

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN !

I think they have the situation in hand. If the Queen is physically unwell for a long period necessitating her absence then she could allow Charles to become the Regent. As George IV became was when his father George III was too ill to reign. I think people are being a bit impatient. Standing roles might not be acceptable at this time, and she did have covid. She perhaps is suffering from long covid..or hip problems? They don't release details. She is mentally fit. (unlike George 3rd). It is not a job, it is a cradle to the grave role. She is not one to abdicate.

GOD SAVE OUR QUEEN

jaylucy

Let's face it, with HM's apparent mobility problems, and the amount of walking involved, even as there is a lift that she used last year, it was quite certain that she wouldn't be able to attend.
Watching it now, Prince Charles is doing a fine job of reading out the government's statement.
Nice to see Prince William involved as well.

This was my point - I think she should do it but use a wheelchair. It's not a sign of weakness, of giving in. It's simply practical.

The daftest sight , a crown in a car as if !

If you can’t do your job then it’s time to go.

Well said! I'm a Royalist and always will be. She has done her country proud and I for one am grateful we have had such a loyal lady.

It seems the queen isn't keen to be seen needing a wheelchair as she sees it as some kind of weakness (which is pretty damn insulting to those who have no choice, but hey). The Queen's Speech does involve walking through the House of Commons so, given her mobility issues, I'm thinking maybe she doesn't want to have to do it unless she can walk - which is a piece of vanity, if true. If it's NOT that, and that she's not up to it mentally, then surely she should just quit. I'd have no problem with Charles taking over. It's about time he got more practice in.

I had a brief moment of wondering what if Charles threw the speech down and said “I’ve had enough of this clap. I’m off. “
Just a thought