The loss of freedom of speech, of sidelining women and biology

I can believe it as the basis for our dystopian future.

Yes, in many ways we are already starting to live it.

Does this seem like a grossly exaggerated scenario, or could you believe it as the basis for a dystopian novel/film? I'd love to say what a gross exaggeration, but in reality I really fear for its accuracy. We are already experiencing elements and unless sanity hits in soon it will accelerate like a roller coaster.

FarNorth

AussieNana have you thought about the hyper-sexualised environment that young girls find themselves in?
If a girl doesn't want to go along with that she may believe, and may be told by others, that she is a transboy.

why are you asking me that?

you seem dismissing the possibility that anyone could actually be trans gender.

No, that did not apply to the trans person I know.

I'm dismissing the idea that the large number of people now claiming to be trans have all suffered from gender dysphoria and have no way to cope other than completely claiming to be the opposite sex to their real one.

It is still a very small proportion of people.

Like many things it is also possible more people can be open about this now so in reality numbers are not rising as much as the issue is able to be openly acknowledged

In schools, according to government guidelines, young girls who menstruate have become "students" and "learners" who menstruate.?

"Government advice on free sanitary products in schools has become gender-neutral after women and girls were referred to as ‘students who menstruate’.

A seven-page 2020 document on the Department for Education (DfE) website described how period products, such as pads and tampons, should be available for all who need them.

However, the document detailed 'young people menstruating', 'learners who menstruate' and ‘students who menstruate’, The Times reported."

Helen Joyce, of Sex Matters, said: 'Replacing those ordinary words with ludicrous expressions . . . reduces girls to their bodily functions and increases the stigma around menstruation, making it even harder for them to navigate puberty.'

It comes after it was reported that the NHS has dropped the word 'women' from its main online health advice for those being treated for cervical, womb and ovarian cancers.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10905873/Government-advice-free-sanitary-products-schools-gender-neutral.html

There are 30 000 people on the detrans reddit. The percentage increase with regard to young girls transitioning is through the roof, this is causing concern amongst medical practitioners etc it's not just GN who are raising this issue.

On the other hand, last night I saw a TV advert linking Father's Day (in the UK) with saving men's lives by donating to Prostate Cancer.
That charity has already stated that they are keeping their message clearly about men because that's how it can be easily understood by the majority of people.

But when it comes to women and girls, there's a frantic rush to avoid mentioning them at all to be 'inclusive' of transboys and transmen.

Here is a video (15 mins) of transwoman Blaire White reviewing Matt Walsh's recent film 'What Is A Woman'.

At about 08.30 in the video, BW says that mastectomy (top surgery) is being done legally to girls as young as 12 in some US states.

From about 09.15, BW explains why it is wrong to say that children know they are trans, despite BW personally 'feeling like a girl' at the age of 5.

Oops
Here's the link.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=zzCs23OVnso

She was abused, accused, screamed at, and had placards thrust in her face. The TW mob were out in force, and she was "invited" to kiss their "man-boobs" and told things she could do with their "trans d*cks".

this sounds very male aggressive behaviour

It really does.

Yes. Why would that be, I wonder?

Here is a free to watch link to the recent Matt Walsh film "What is a Woman?"
(1.5 hrs)

flixtor.to/watch/movie/53607650/what-is-a-woman

I watched that a couple of days ago, also via a free link I'd probably disagree with Matt Walsh on practically every other subject but he certainly managed to shine some light on this. Its pretty long but well worth a watch, just a shame it won't get wider viewing because it could open so many eyes. How are you supposed to take some of those 'professionals' seriously.........does a chicken cry? ??

I certainly disagree with Matt Walsh on a lot of things, including some things in this film such as his stereotypes for his children.

Regardless of that, he is asking a simple question which seems to cause difficulty to many - What is a Woman?

I thought it was fairly obvious that so many absolutely know what a woman is but are reluctant to articulate it, probably for fear of being ostracised or worse. Time after time there was visible demonstration of this thread title.
I agree about the stereotyping of his children.

For anyone with spare time, here's a link to MW responding to a video by 'Professor Dave' who had explained why trans identity is a real thing
m.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR3pEX0uIbLuWSrU5kG6RjvdYVePeKwVcwsfGy3JRM_qXzwuvWSVzql9kro&v=w5Y_V7CgmTg&feature=youtu.be

and then Dave responding to MW
m.youtube.com/watch?v=9uZOLtdIA7Y&t=7s&fbclid=IwAR0pLG7xIvIqYMjPFT_pYzVTS22ipaFgXU9E9DOqEhlxG_MlHlqi9oL5I_s

there is so much wrong overthinking with professor dave and possibly gender conformity with Matt Walsh. When push comes to shove it is about safety and fairness. Rape is only possible with a penis. The basic responsibility of society is to protect those without penises from those with them. That is the only information necessary for safeguarding. It is also a recognised fact that the sexes have different physical abilities and in sport they should be separated for fairness.
women should be named and visible without shame or fear...they are not people with body parts suggesting that man is the norm. Goodness me how far back do we have to go? Its very recent that patriarchy allowed women to have a soul. And I think it was not till 1975 that women were allowed financial autonomy in America. Without being sponsored by a male. I'm tired of two men discussing this.

I recently came across this article about the amount of talking done by females and males, and how it is perceived.

www.bustle.com/articles/164756-stuff-you-missed-in-history-class-podcast-is-accused-of-being-too-female-focused-but-the?fbclid=IwAR1mboVJdCPPQoRhRgVzGaNEU3D3XXi2ye90KMLN976VLasn-HaKSZnuh4Q

Here are some Australian women talking about women's rights & trans ideology.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ8JmnwtYiY

"A mother-of-two has been ordered to pay £300 compensation and not to contact a transgender woman after a row about whether she should be allowed to use female toilets.

Chinzia Ogilvie was involved in a social media spat with Ivy Burrows, in which she was accused of sending 'transphobic' messages that 'invited hate' against her.

The 43-year-old, who turned up to court in Portsmouth wearing a badge saying 'transwomen are men', argued fiercely that Ms Burrows should not be allowed to use women-only facilities, such as shared changing rooms.

The seven-hour exchange was said to have left Ms Burrows feeling 'scared' and 'distressed', while it was suggested during the discussion that she might be a paedophile, Portsmouth Magistrates' Court

The row erupted after trans woman Ms Burrows made a comment on Twitter about the suffragette movement and tagged Ogilvie on October 2, last year.

The court heard the pair had previously shared 'diametrically opposed views' on the platform.

Prosecutor Graham Heath told the hearing that as the debate degenerated, Ogilvie made offensive comments about the victim's genitalia which 'made her feel disgusted, violated and degraded'.

However, Tim Sparkes, defending, insisted Ms Burrows was not 'a vulnerable victim' but a 'political activist' who had started the conversation and also been the first to use a derogatory comment."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10911139/Mother-ordered-pay-300-compensation-transwoman-transphobic-comments-Twitter-row.html

I’m still quietly fuming over the position Waitrose took after one of their delivery staff complained they felt insulted that the woman to whose house he was delivering wore a tshirt saying that woman = adult human female. KellieJay, who is a woman’s right activist explained what it meant when he asked. She thought he was a just long haired male to which he replied that he liked going into female toilets. She told him to leave. He said ‘in my own time’. He then complained to Waitrose who threatened her : “We’ve received a report that you used abusive language to one of our partners. We take the welfare of our partners very seriously and do not tolerate this sort of behaviour. If we receive any further reports of abusive behaviour, we will have no option but to stop delivering to your address.”
Kellie-Jay replied. “I don’t expect a Waitrose driver, dropping off some bread and milk, to ask me what my views are and tell me the LIE that ‘trans women are women’… If Waitrose decided that they don’t want to deliver to me because I won’t pretend that I think somebody with a penis is a woman, then that’s absolutely fine, they will lose my custom.”:

I hope that a lot of people are removing their custom from Waitrose, and advising them why.

Regardless of which view anyone supports, a delivery driver shouldn't be questioning a customer about a poster in their home and Waitrose shouldn't be chastising a customer when they have no idea what happened.

FarNorth

I hope that a lot of people are removing their custom from Waitrose, and advising them why.

Regardless of which view anyone supports, a delivery driver shouldn't be questioning a customer about a poster in their home and Waitrose shouldn't be chastising a customer when they have no idea what happened.

Absolutely, FN.

It's good that they consider their staff, and would support them if they were abused; but would they threaten people who have political party posters (or are wearing T shirts) in their own homes?

They will soon go out of business if they only deliver to people who keep their opinions to themselves.

They will soon go out of business if they only deliver to people who keep their opinions to themselves.
It seems they only support opinions that discriminate against AHF.
Am I wrong in believing that an AHF is still allowed to refer to herself as a woman?
Or has Waitrose gone so far down the slippery path that they believe it should only apply to males now?