Thomas Markle rushed to hospital after a suspected stroke.

And what of the many who stood and waved and cheered for a
couple who had just left the church following their alleged mock marriage, the two witnesses who signed the register , did
the already married couple have a good laugh.

Who cares, if ut was real to them thats when they felt married.

Again this has onky ome up in regards to her being a liar

How does misusing a word make someone a liar?

Sorry, could have worded that better! Should proof read before sending ?

Not only does here have to be a registrar and two witnesses for a marriage to be legal- the ceremony has to take place in building/site that is licensed for marriages to take place.

Ah, i love a bit of romantic nonsense

It's a romantic notion.

And is that such a bad thing?

I wouldn't but some posters keep insisting it's possible!
It's a romantic notion.

Anyway, back to the OP. It sounds as if Mr Markle has a long road ahead of rehabilitation and I hope he will get the help he needs.

Sorry Callistemon that’s not aimed specifically at you!

It seems to me we have established they did not get officially married in that garden and that Meghan misspoke, (maybe she meant something different ). But surely there’s little point repeating the same comments about it not being a marriage etc etc.

Because two people who are standing in a garden, can say what they like to each other but it doesn't consitute a legal marriage unless someone authorised to perform marriage ceremonies conducts the service and witnesses are present.

It could be the gardener and his boy (or the gardener and her girl), it doesn't matter who the witnesses are as long as they are 18 or over, but that is the law in England.

Anything else is just romantic nonsense.

Anniebach

If just exchanging vows in a garden with no witnesses and no
registrar is a marriage why all the support for same sex couples
to be married in Church ?

Because that is what they want Anniebach. They want a church wedding, lots of people do.

Sorry, very shaky hands today and forget to proof read

Without gibing it foo muh thought Anniebach marriage conmes sith legal things attached like taxes, inheritace etc

Not to mention disallowing same sex couples to marry is discrimination

If just exchanging vows in a garden with no witnesses and no
registrar is a marriage why all the support for same sex couples
to be married in Church ?

Even if we stand here and say that is a lie, (when we have heard so many examples of how situations are deemed more special or equal too a marriage certificate) that doesnt mean anything else said was a lie.

Not trying to make this personal but i cant help thinking of when I gave my mother reasons for estrangement. She told me i was wrong about one of many reasons and sent lots of insults about how i lie and exagerate and what a cruel horrible person i am... Anyway, digress.

Actually I did realise I was very likely wrong about that one thing....

The biggest frustration to me however was that none of the other reasons were addressed and she wasnt interested in ever doing so. She just grasped that one excuse to dismiss me.

Obviously we are still estranged

VioletSky

My husband and i still celebrate the anniversary of our first date as more special than marriage.

We married so that I would have the same name as our children and we would be husband and wife.

I don't see anything weird about the first time sharing vows being deemed the real marriage or representative of it.

My husband and i still celebrate the anniversary of our first date as more special than marriage.

That's lovely, and our first child was born on the anniversary of the day we met (several years later) which was a lovely coincidence.

However, and whatever anyone claims, private vows, promises between couples etc do not consitute a marriage.

Cohabitation for a lifetime is not marriage although it may be a long-term commitment.
Getting married in a Roman Catholic church was not, in fact considered a legal marriage in the UK. A registrar had to be present.

Anyone can call a rose a daffodil but it's still a rose.

When I got married in church, we had a rehearsal. That’s the most likely explanation for the ‘wedding’ three days before. Meghan either misunderstood or lied. Either way, they didn’t get married. They got married in the church and we all, or many of us, watched.

Thank you ladies for your kind thoughts.

I don’t worry too much about mum, it’s a lifelong habit with her to claim to be unwell. She’ll be feeling a bit left out and possibly lonely because we’re all here in Devon, family from N Z. and our other two children and partners and grandchild. The kiddies are wild with excitement and so very happy to be together again. Only one missing, our daughter in law’s little grandchild who we treat as our own. He’s got chicken pox, poor thing, and very disappointed to not be here.

Mum is 94 and immobile so it is what it is, she’s had many lovely holidays in the past.

I’m sure the hospital which treated Mr Markle wouldn’t have gone along with any untruths. He’s been in hospital for five days, so something has happened. I wish him well and hope his daughter will go to see him, as she said she might. If she does, she’s doing the right thing in my opinion.

I really hope that Thomas Markle recovers completely.

I am gkad Thomas Markle is well enough to travel home again and hope he makes goid choices about his behaviour in future

There are lots of couples now who choose to have different marriage ceremonies. To comply with the law they also have to have a registry office ceremony. But I bet if asked most of them would consider their marriage began when they made their vows and not when they went to the registry office.

My husband and i still celebrate the anniversary of our first date as more special than marriage.

We married so that I would have the same name as our children and we would be husband and wife.

I don't see anything weird about the first time sharing vows being deemed the real marriage or representative of it.

Do you seriously think Meghan Markle would countenance for one moment a marriage to an extremely rich man that was not legally binding and completely watertight?

Remember Jerry Hall, whose romantic marriage on Bali to Mick Jagger was not recognised as legal either in Indonesia or Britain when it came to the divorce?

Allsorts, all the reports I have read do not name the specific hospital and I can't find anything that backs up the claim that TM has actually suffered a stroke although plenty of news reports have said that he is "reported" to have a stroke. Perhaps you could direct me to the statement where the hospital backs up that he has had a stroke?

"If theyreallywanted a small private ceremony, like Beatrice had, then surely they could havehadthat! And the UK could have saved millions !"
And the RF not "following tradition" - fat chance!