Hello ‘new Barbie’. ?

Some generations really do go to great lengths to offend themselves....

This is why we need acceptance and open mindednes taught in education.... So that future generstions are happier

That's photoshopped and nothing to do with Mattel.

Thinking of copying my post about critical thinking.

That would explain my confusion.

VioletSky

Some generations really do go to great lengths to offend themselves....

This is why we need acceptance and open mindednes taught in education.... So that future generstions are happier

What has generation to do with this?

And how does one offend oneself?

The question of whether 'education' (which you seem to be conflating with indoctrination, although you will almost certainly tell me that I am misquoting you) should be telling children things with which their parents disagree is too big for this thread.

I'll start a new one asking how far 'education' (a very broad term at best) should have such a role, who 'educates' the educators and to what extent parents should have a say in what their children are taught.

That would be a good topic for a new thread Doodledog.

Smileless2012

That would be a good topic for a new thread Doodledog.

Thank you. It's in Education, for those who don't use 'Active Topics' to find threads.

The OP is probably a bit muddled, as the topic is very broad, so please bear with me, and pick and mix answers, or add questions of your own?

Thanks I'll take a look.

Maudi

Perhaps an overweight Barbie with a few tattoos would be more apt.

Benefit Barbie.
Comes with a 98 inch tv, the latest phone, and has big eyebrows, acrylic nails, a fag in one hand and a bottle of lambrusco in the other.

That's hilarious Annie .

MissAdventure

Benefit Barbie.
Comes with a 98 inch tv, the latest phone, and has big eyebrows, acrylic nails, a fag in one hand and a bottle of lambrusco in the other.

Benefit Ken, beer belly, sleeveless vest with obnoxious saying, tattoos, large snarling dog and a can of stella Artois

Snobby Barbie? Comes with a set of stereotypical views, a copy of the Daily Mail and some blinkers?

Doodledog ???

Oops you forgot the large 4 + 4 and handbag dog Doodle

Don’t forget the baby for the unmarried Barbie, called Chantelle or Dwayne!

I'm not offended at all this, but I am bemused.?

Some parents are gullible enough to buy a Barbie doll, that if it is going to resemble anything to little girls or boys., it's a pop diva, such as Rhianna or Beyoncé, but it's been announced as trans, so they'll buy it to show how "right on" they are...?.

I feel sorry for some of today's young children - they can't even have and play with their dollies, and just be little children, without adults sticking their #hashtag# agendas in there.

Run for them there hills.the world has gone bluddy bonkers.

Might be lost a bit on the target age group as under 5's don't necessarily pay a lot of attention to those things - tend to undress them in our experience then the clothes get lost. Over 5's maybe. DGS1 had first sex education lesson last week. He is 8. It was about not letting anyone touch you under your pants and to tell your grown up or teacher if anyone tried. Also that nothing like that is a secret from your grown up and it could be an uncle or friend of your grown ups. He told me all this in the swimming pool changing room in front of his sister who is 5 who then asked lots of questions loudly about it (she never stops talking and is heading to being a teacher like Mummy). Had to explain all this to DD1 in case she had a lot of questions. This Wednesday they had a lesson about stereotypes! I have no idea what that was about though his sister had a viewpoint! Why does Granny get all these questions?

All the dollys were unisex when I was a kid. Nothing new under the sun.

Maudi

Perhaps an overweight Barbie with a few tattoos would be more apt.

And a number of piercings on the face and body?

ElaineI

Might be lost a bit on the target age group as under 5's don't necessarily pay a lot of attention to those things - tend to undress them in our experience then the clothes get lost. Over 5's maybe. DGS1 had first sex education lesson last week. He is 8. It was about not letting anyone touch you under your pants and to tell your grown up or teacher if anyone tried. Also that nothing like that is a secret from your grown up and it could be an uncle or friend of your grown ups. He told me all this in the swimming pool changing room in front of his sister who is 5 who then asked lots of questions loudly about it (she never stops talking and is heading to being a teacher like Mummy). Had to explain all this to DD1 in case she had a lot of questions. This Wednesday they had a lesson about stereotypes! I have no idea what that was about though his sister had a viewpoint! Why does Granny get all these questions?

It's quite right they are taught to tell a trusted adult if anyone does anything to make them feel uncomfortable or touches them under their clothes.

Parents and schools should always be reinforcing that.?

Not sure what the stereotyping thing is though - children just have their friends, male and female, and they all play. Or, mine did. They don't stereotype anyway at that age.?

Doodledog the very obvious answer is that schools teach British Values.

British Values are:

Individual Liberty
Tolerance
Respect

Our rights are protected by law and legislation. One being the equality act, which teaches that certain groups have protected characteristics.

Another is the Childrens Act which safeguards children and teaches them they have rights that are protected.

You may complain that schools are indoctronating children but the truth is, childten are simply taught to be open minded, respectful and tolerant of each others differences.

While those are things children are taught about British Values as fundamental, education itself is a hollistic approach that shows children that there is always more to learn, understand and embrace about themselves, each other and the wider world around them.

It was only a short time ago that 'the family sex show' was lauded by some.

I'm not sure of the necessity of teaching about stereotypes to an 8 year old, but of course talking to them about confiding in an adult they trust if something's made them feel uncomfortable is of the upmost importance, and IMO needs to be done in conjunction with parents.

As parents, we felt it was our role to teach our children to respect others and to be open minded about and tolerant of others, and their school to reinforce these values, rather than abdicating our parental responsibility to the school. The same applied to sex education.

There may well be cultural and or religious factors in a child's family that would determine for example at what age those discussions should take place and the content. Which is why, although I don't know if this is the case, and how practical it is to do so, parents should be informed before this takes place during school.

When education was confined to the basics, life must have been so much simpler for parents, teachers and children of all ages.