Hello ‘new Barbie’. ?

Unfortunately there are parents who do not raise their children well.(despite being unable to see or agree that their parenting is problematic).

As well as abuse and neglect, the parents may have opinions, values and ideals that directly harm their own children. That can range from FGM and arranged marriage to views about race, sexuality or gender that prevent their child from having an authentic life and feeling loved for who they are.

This is why schools work together with other organisations to safeguard and educate children.

The family sex show was endorsed pretty well, and that turned out well.

Good for Barbie for celebrating women.

Celebrating a body that's humanly impossible to achieve without extensive plastic surgery? Doesn't that encourage young girls into body dysmorphia? It doesn't seem to sit well alongside a hollistic approach that shows children that there is always more to learn, understand and embrace about themselves.
This young woman was so enamoured with the Barbie look that she's spent ££££s undergoing plastic surgery; not something I'd think we should think we should be encouraging young girls to think about.

Barbie baaad

Barbie dolls propagate unrealistic ideas for girls and women.

Fair comment. We're going to release a range of dolls that celebrate real women in the 2020s; scientists, astronauts, black women, trans people, people in wheelchairs.

Oh no you don't! Barbie baaad

If Barbie were a real person she would be unable to walk, lift her head, and would have no room for her internal organs.

volver

*Barbie baaad*

Barbie dolls propagate unrealistic ideas for girls and women.

Fair comment. We're going to release a range of dolls that celebrate real women in the 2020s; scientists, astronauts, black women, trans people, people in wheelchairs.

*Oh no you don't! Barbie baaad*

Lol

That's very sad isn't it Chewbacca.

The family sex show was endorsed pretty well, and that turned out well

Didn't it just. Funny thing is, at the time that the s**t hit the fan regarding the show being suitable for children as young as 5, they've since amended their website considerably.

My Barbies used to have sex with Paul, Sindy's boyfriend

JaneJudge

My Barbies used to have sex with Paul, Sindy's boyfriend

It's because Sindy was too busy with Action Man to bother with wimpy Paul

But my Paul had a nice jumper and went on walking holidays in Betws-y-Coed

That's why DD's Sindy preferred DS's Action Man.

He had one of those Army jumpers with epaulettes.

Stick with it until a minute and 35 seconds in.

twitter.com/mattgreencomedy/status/1410282003476451332

VioletSky

Unfortunately there are parents who do not raise their children well.(despite being unable to see or agree that their parenting is problematic).

As well as abuse and neglect, the parents may have opinions, values and ideals that directly harm their own children. That can range from FGM and arranged marriage to views about race, sexuality or gender that prevent their child from having an authentic life and feeling loved for who they are.

This is why schools work together with other organisations to safeguard and educate children.

Ah, right. That's a far cry from Some generations really do go to great lengths to offend themselves....This is why we need acceptance and open mindednes taught in education.... So that future generstions are happier (said in the context of this thread, as opposed to in general), though, isn't it? And when the 'other organisations' include Stonewall, things are moving a long way from protecting children from abuse and neglect.

volver, It is allowed to disagree with you, you know? It's not about 'Barbie baaaad', and we are not sheep. You don't have to be so disrespectful to other posters - if you have a point to make, why not make it instead of sneering?

It's about using a child's toy to perpetuate the myth that transwomen are women. By making the doll the same as the other (female) ones but saying that it is trans, Mattel is suggesting that there is no difference between transwomen and women, when this is scientifically untrue.

If the astronaut, scientist, Rosa Parks and other dolls are role models which influence children (and I have no problem with any of them, other than that it would be better if they could be more realistically shaped), then how is having a 'trans' doll not going to do likewise? At best, it is normalising the idea that women can be men who say they are female.

Doodledog

It is the difference between my education and my understanding in certain topics and my occasionally frustrated observations of a difference between generations in terms of what they see as a problem and the sheer amount of work done to remain angry about it because of preconceived ideas.

I am allowed both

Also

Trans women are women

Barbie gets it

It's about using a toy to perpetuate the myth that trans women are women. By making the doll the same as other (female) ones but saying it's trans.

Exactly, and unless you know the actress the doll is based on, and know she's a trans woman and let's face it, not all adults would know, never mind the children who'll play with the doll, there's nothing to distinguish this particular Barbie from any other.

Trans women are not women.

Good lord. How many times?

there's nothing to distinguish this particular Barbie from any other.

That's the point

Yes volver and that's the point that's being discussed at the moment.

volver, It is allowed to disagree with you, you know? It's not about 'Barbie baaaad', and we are not sheep. You don't have to be so disrespectful to other posters - if you have a point to make, why not make it instead of sneering?

It's Friday night so I don't care anymore. Over and over again I've said what I think. But over and over again, the point is being spectacularly missed. Perhaps if people were to stop thinking that exasperation and sneering were the same thing, we'd get somewhere. I won't hold my breath though.

I don't agree that "the point is being spectacularly missed" volver it is being disagreed with.

Exasperation and sneering are not the same thing, that's the point.

Smileless2012

Yes volver and that's the point that's being discussed at the moment.

Them carry on and knock your pan in, in your wee echo chamber of inalienable rectitude. Any of us who have a different idea will just keep quiet. Clearly most of us are already.

If you want to keep quiet go ahead I won't hold my breath though.