Speaking the truth about brexit

volver

^Maybe in the hope that such misinformation gets stopped in its tracks and doesn't enter the mainstream as the truth.^

This. Definitely this.

True. But flogging dead horses often springs to mind.

Maybe in the hope that such misinformation gets stopped in its tracks and doesn't enter the mainstream as the truth.

This. Definitely this.

MaizieD

Ah. Overtaken by faster typers.

I really don't know why we bother to respond to such nonsense, though.

Maybe in the hope that such misinformation gets stopped in its tracks and doesn't enter the mainstream as the truth.

anything even remotely seamless and it'll have another 27 'exits' to deal with.

Unlikely once they look at the state of our economy compared to nations within the EU.

No response from the Brexit cult followed as to why no action on animal welfare standards apart from to make them lower - we were promised they would be higher. Makes me hate this Brexshitter government even more.

MaizieD

Ah. Overtaken by faster typers.

I really don't know why we bother to respond to such nonsense, though.

Exactly. Other threads can be included.

Ah. Overtaken by faster typers.

I really don't know why we bother to respond to such nonsense, though.

MaizieD

growstuff

What do the new laws cover?

And where did that weird snippet of 'information' come from?

NI are doing very nicely out of the NIP. The only people who don't like it are the DUP. Johnson is just pandering to the ERG.

The only source appears to be the Telegraph.

growstuff

What do the new laws cover?

And where did that weird snippet of 'information' come from?

NI are doing very nicely out of the NIP. The only people who don't like it are the DUP. Johnson is just pandering to the ERG.

Urmstongran

The ROI was happy with electronic monitoring (trusted traders etc) until the EU pointed out that a border in the Irish sea was a long step to a unified Ireland. That’s what this is all about. The long game.

So you would want to turn NI into a smuggler's paradise?

Jeez!

The UK isn't "placating" the EU. The UK made its own decision and is whinging about the inevitable consequences. The EU is being the adult in the situation and having to deal with the fall out.

The ROI was happy with electronic monitoring (trusted traders etc) until the EU pointed out that a border in the Irish sea was a long step to a unified Ireland. That’s what this is all about. The long game.

I wish we’d gone WTO. Placating the EU has been a fool’s errand but we are where we are. And toughening up. At last.

I did Google it and found it.

I can't believe that anybody would accept anything the DUP says!!

The EU hasn't made anything more difficult. Its hand was forced by the situation and has had to issue the laws to make trade between NI and the rest of the UK seamless.

Maybe you're the one who should check what the DUP says and the Telegraph reports.

The EU allowed a part of the territory of a 3rd country to be inside the Single Market (for free) to prevent an Irish land border and all they asked in return is to respect the Single Market rules.

OK! I did the research myself. The new laws were all caused by Brexit and relate mainly to medicines, food, plant and animal health. The laws aren't "new", but ensure that Northern Ireland continues to have the same access as the rest of the UK (therefore no change), whilst ensuring that they don't enter the single market. The only effect on Northern Ireland is that it can't export/import from to/from the EU without checks. The same kind of laws have had to be introduced in the rest of the UK, which is why there's been an explosion in red tape. Has the Telegraph reported those?

No idea what the new laws cover. You could Google it I suppose if you want to find out? That the DUP say it is enough for me. Brussels has no choice but to make EU/UK trade difficult - anything even remotely seamless and it'll have another 27 'exits' to deal with.

Urmstongran

Antony Gormley is entitled to an opinion on Brexit. As do we all. With regards to his embarrassment over it I beg to differ. France (Macron) isn’t doing much to help Ukraine at present by still buying gas at inflated prices from Russia, to which France has the greater affinity. Germany is keeping pretty quiet too. Neither country exactly covers themselves in glory do they? I’m glad we’re in NATO. I’m proud of Boris’ actions as is Zelensky and the Ukrainian people. I’d vote Brexit again, most definitely.

What does actions taken by individual states have to do with the EU?

PS. France and Germany are bigger contributors to NATO than the UK, so I don't understand the reference.

What do the new laws cover?

The EU have issued 4,000 new laws in N.I. in the last 18 months! No wonder the DUP say the situation has become untenable. I’m glad Boris is finally tackling the NIP.

Still 0.028% of France's energy supples Ug. And falling.

The EU are working on plans to assist businesses in NI where things have been made more difficult as a result of a Johnson’s protocol.

There is little appetite for an all out trade war because they want to keep focused on the ukraine issue. However, the EU will be forced to start legal proceedings if the U.K. fail to carry out some of the checks necessary, that was agreed by Johnson, in an international agreement, for the supply to enter the EU.
Customs lanes seem to be something that can be agreed on and originally suggested by the EU - turned down by Johnson, but now back on the table according to Johnson.

Macron has been buying discounted gas from Russia Mamie since the Ukraine war began. It has moved on from what you quoted.

This is interesting:

Emmanuel Macron has been accused of betraying Ukraine after figures showed that French imports of Russian gas rose during the invasion of Ukraine.

Russia made €93 billion (£80 billion) in fossil fuel exports during the first 100 days of the war, according to a report from the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air (Crea), an independent research organisation based in Finland.

The EU in total accounted for 61 per cent of Russia’s total fossil fuel exports, worth about €57 billion (£49 billion), even as the bloc moved to reduce its dependence on Russian energy.

France, Belgium and the Netherlands had snapped up shipments of the Kremlin’s fossil fuels at discounted prices after other buyers cut back their purchases during the conflict, Crea said.

Source: Telegraph today quoting Crea.

Gas is 16% of France's total energy supply. 17% of that supply comes from Russia and is currently being phased out.
Not sure what you mean by " Macron's affinity". Maybe try reading what he actually says about Russia, rather than the distorted version of the UK gutter press?

Antony Gormley is entitled to an opinion on Brexit. As do we all. With regards to his embarrassment over it I beg to differ. France (Macron) isn’t doing much to help Ukraine at present by still buying gas at inflated prices from Russia, to which France has the greater affinity. Germany is keeping pretty quiet too. Neither country exactly covers themselves in glory do they? I’m glad we’re in NATO. I’m proud of Boris’ actions as is Zelensky and the Ukrainian people. I’d vote Brexit again, most definitely.