Andrew returning to public life

maddyone

It has been reported that servicemen Andrew worked with said he was entitled and arrogant then.

Yes, we know some of them.

The press need something to replace the jubilee celebrations.

The Queen will lose support if Andrew is seen in any public role.
Not that Charles can be "holier than thou" with his past behaviour.
The Monarchy should stop with the Queen.

@wicklowwinnie I think what he did was appalling ,but adultery, although it is a vile thing to do is at least an act between adults.
I guess PA probably thinks well I've said sorry, I've been out of the public eye for oooh ages, so everyone will have either forgiven me or forgotten about what I did. so it will be ok for me to have all my toys back that were confiscated. I know other entitled men like that who can't see what is wrong with their misdeeds

Well at least Charles and William are able to be sensitive to public opinion. Schools or upbringing alone cannot be responsible, not all wealthy people are awful, not everyone who attended particular schools is entitled, but Andrew certainly is dim and arrogant.

The marriage of Charles and Diana didn’t work, they both had
affairs, doubt anyone on this forum has ever done such
‘A vile thing’, oodles

I’m not sure whether Charles is entirely innocent. Isn’t there some controversy about cash for honours and Prince Charles going on? Maybe someone knows a bit more about it than I do.

Granmarderby10

Who did the booing at Harry and Meghan? I didn’t watch it as I was at work.

I gather there were cheers too but I didn’t watch it tbh

Andrew and his family should not return to public life. the Queen has done an excellent job but there is a limit to what the public will accept in terms of misbehavour by her descendents. Charles' behaviour with respect to his marriage to Diana was bad enough. I find it very difficult to accept Cammilla as the forth coming Queen. Andrew has crossed the line. The boundary between acceptable behaviour in a public role and unacceptable behaviour needs to be marked out if the institution of the Royal Family is to survive.

Let's face it, hat else is he going to do?
Hardly see him signing up for Universal credit and having to go to the job centre every 2 weeks !

He bought off her silence and NOT proved his worthiness so NO he should not be bought back into the fold. He needs to grout and get a proper job, like us peasants.

I would think when the queen dies PA will not have to bother about money again although no doubt he will squander a lot of it.

Remember the case against him was not tested in a court of law, and his payment was not an admissionof guilt - probably agreed to avoid overshadowing the Jubilee celebrations. I am extremely suspicious that a woman, who was implicit in placing other young girls at risk, rocks up 20 years later claiming sexual abuse. Clearly she wouldn’t risk the having the case tried in a crininal court a) because the standard of proof was too high for her purpose and b) she would not get a huge payout.

pieinthesky

Oh dear! Another prominent man who thinks he can do just as he likes with no real consequences and thinks we will all forgive and forget. Yet another example of the arrogance and self entitlement that seems to exist in people of a “certain class”. Hopefully the Queen will wear her Monarch’s and not her Mother’s head when she receives his request. His copybook has been well and truly blotted and no coming back!

Can anyone say what he is actually guilty of. Like a lot of these cases, it is women coming out of the woodwork many years later and getting very rich on the back of it. This women did not come out of this very well. There was evidence from a previous boyfriend that she was grooming girls for Epstein. Has she given the £12 million to her ‘charity’. I read that Weinstein is to be charged with offences dating back to 1996, where is the forensic evidence. I also read of a well known actress, when she was 27 went to a producers house hoping for a part in his production, he pushed her up against the wall and tried it on, she went back more times after this hoping to get the part which she didn’t, says it all really.

Perhaps PA could begin his rehabilitation for public life by undertaking some public duties in Rwanda. According to Liz Truss there's a near empty flight...

Coco51

Remember the case against him was not tested in a court of law, and his payment was not an admissionof guilt - probably agreed to avoid overshadowing the Jubilee celebrations. I am extremely suspicious that a woman, who was implicit in placing other young girls at risk, rocks up 20 years later claiming sexual abuse. Clearly she wouldn’t risk the having the case tried in a crininal court a) because the standard of proof was too high for her purpose and b) she would not get a huge payout.

You are ignorant of how the law works apparently. Victims of crimes don’t get to choose to try it in criminal court.

On another note, the man was friends with a convicted pedophile. Even if all sexual encounters arranged by the convicted pedophile were consensual- they were with children. At least 17 is still a child where I come from. Kind of shocking that doesn’t seem to matter at all to GNs.

What an entitled, grasping, ghastly waste of space...

He absolutely should not, he needs to face the fact he is no longer able to use his privilege position to live a life of a royal. Let’s face it, he still
Lives a very privileged life, so should just accept he will bring ruin on the Royal
Family, he is not a very liked Person anyway …

Simply time for PA to realise that the gravy train has well and truly stopped.
In life I was taught that respect had to be earnt ,well he’s blown that and I honestly hope he does not get anything reinstated

If he wants to get back into favour, he needs to do something humble and restorative. Something charitable, for sure but also quietly and as anonymously as possible. Expecting to get back into the limelight as an entitlement is exactly the sort of behaviour that got him into so much trouble in the first place.

"Can anyone say what he is actually guilty of. Like a lot of these cases, it is women coming out of the woodwork many years later and getting very rich on the back of it. This women did not come out of this very well. There was evidence from a previous boyfriend that she was grooming girls for Epstein. Has she given the £12 million to her ‘charity’. I read that Weinstein is to be charged with offences dating back to 1996, where is the forensic evidence. I also read of a well known actress, when she was 27 went to a producers house hoping for a part in his production, he pushed her up against the wall and tried it on, she went back more times after this hoping to get the part which she didn’t, says it all really."

Wow - blame the victims, why don't you! Are you also the sort of person whose first question if a girl is raped would be, "Well what were you wearing?" Ajswan?

Wow - blame the victims, why don't you! Are you also the sort of person whose first question if a girl is raped would be, "Well what were you wearing?" Ajswan?

Exactly what I was going to say. So few cases of rape, let alone sexual assault are ever reported, as most women know that the current conviction rate in the UK is around 1%, and yet they have to go through harrowing physical examinations and questioning, then if it goes to court, their character and background will be dragged through the mud, they will have to relive the terrible ordeal in public, and will be accused of lying, 'asking for it' and just trying to trap a man for money. Add to this the perpetrator being a very rich and influential man, and the likelihood of getting a conviction is even harder. Most victims will also at least partially blame themselves, as society has dictated that if we wear the wrong clothes, smile in the wrong way or allow someone to walk us home, we're obviously 'asking for it'.
Victim blaming like that makes my blood boil.

Although I have no time for, or interest in Andrew- he is an entitled and arrogant man - also somewhat dim and lacking in insight- he did well in the Falklands. I also agree with Coco51 and others about the motives and actions of Virginia Guiffre. I’m sure she loved all the money and connections that Jeffrey and Ghislaine had - some of which came her way. After all, in this country, the age of consent is 16 - unlike America where it is 18.

Why can't these threads just have tickboxes, then we wouldn't need to keep reading the same views repeatedly. I must have a short attention span as I often give up before the end of the post.

montymops I agree. However, if Andrew is really contrite he needs to address his reputation for arrogance and entitlement. I'm surprised his PR people aren't organising for him to get involved with others on a much lowlier day to day life rather than being a figurehead for a regiment etc.
How about doing the washing up at a soup kitchen? Volunteering at a project to tidy up areas of the inner city? Any other type of down to earth work that needs doing and would give him the opportunity to get to know a wider range of people.