Human Rights Erosion- does this worry you?

I've read through Raab's statement yet again. It's pure propagandist double speak. This Bill of Rights is nothing to do with giving citizens more rights. It's about taking away rights, but will keep the ERG and the UKIP-types happy - until they want even more. A few years ago, I would never have believed my country could have sunk so low. I agree with you Rameses.

I have a lot more trust in the European Court upholding my rights than I have in this lying government.

Everything about this government worries me.

25Avalon

No it doesn’t worry me. We have our own Supreme Court. We will still be part of the European Convention.

Totally agree. We have our own Supreme Court. Why should a European court be allowed to override ours

All of them no doubt. After all, the greasy piglet is still in office. No limits to human folly

sundowngirl

25Avalon

No it doesn’t worry me. We have our own Supreme Court. We will still be part of the European Convention.

Totally agree. We have our own Supreme Court. Why should a European court be allowed to override ours

You mean the "European" Court that we set up, that has UK people sitting in it? The one that prevents our government attacking human right abuses and pretending its legal?

volver

sundowngirl

25Avalon

No it doesn’t worry me. We have our own Supreme Court. We will still be part of the European Convention.

Totally agree. We have our own Supreme Court. Why should a European court be allowed to override ours

You mean the "European" Court that we set up, that has UK people sitting in it? The one that prevents our government attacking human right abuses and pretending its legal?

It's the word 'European' that does it, volver. It's a real dog whistle. And look how well it works...

Perhaps we should call it "Klingon". ?

Disgraceful. Raab is pandering to some real knuckledraggers in and out of the Commons. It's a very similar ploy to playing the racist immigration card. I hope he loses his seat next time. The occasional blocks to deporting criminals that the extreme right scream about are very minor in comparison to the benefits of the ECHR. And some politicians and journalists confuse the public and wind up the Brexiteers by failing to make clear that the Court is NOT based on the EU.

It’s very concerning that rights and liberties are being eroded without seemingly most of the population having a clue, understanding, or some even caring.
We won’t wake up one morning and find our democracy has disappeared, it happens gradually, and we are on the pathway.
We don’t learn the lessons of recent history (or perhaps some do!)

The human rights act only seems to help the wrongdoers in our country how many criminals are using the act to stay in our country

katy1950

The human rights act only seems to help the wrongdoers in our country how many criminals are using the act to stay in our country

That's because they are the only cases that get any publicity in the right wing press.

The latest judgement, which prevented the Rwanda deportation flight did not involve a criminal.

katy1950

The human rights act only seems to help the wrongdoers in our country how many criminals are using the act to stay in our country

You mean like the Hillsborough families and the victims of sex predator John Worboys? Both groups resorted to using the Human Rights Act.

No - The supremacy the local law is one of the pillars of independence that define a country.

katy1950

The human rights act only seems to help the wrongdoers in our country how many criminals are using the act to stay in our country

OK! So how many criminals have used the Act to stay in the UK? What's the answer?

Farzanah

It’s very concerning that rights and liberties are being eroded without seemingly most of the population having a clue, understanding, or some even caring.
We won’t wake up one morning and find our democracy has disappeared, it happens gradually, and we are on the pathway.
We don’t learn the lessons of recent history (or perhaps some do!)

I agree. The issue is that most people don't have a clue. They read about a couple of "headline" cases and they really don't seem to understand that the HRA offers them protection from a rogue government. They forget that we won't always have a Conservative government. Maybe one day, there'll be an extreme left-wing government - the HRA would protect them too. The whole point of universal human rights is that they are universal and do not favour a political party.

I agree @whitewavemark2
We are fast becoming a dictatorship. This government is so openly corrupt that it beggars belief

How apt this post is on the 6th anniversary of when a third of the voutry (17.4 million) fell for the lies of Johnson, Farage and Co, voting leave

sandelf

No - The supremacy the local law is one of the pillars of independence that define a country.

Really? Really?

Who told you that?

sandelf

No - The supremacy the local law is one of the pillars of independence that define a country.

Where on earth did you get that idea?

Local laws can easily become the tools of a dictator unless there are overriding human rights laws.

Worrying times. The erosion of human rights is an isidious process. Mhairi Black's speech a while ago was spot on and it made me think of Pastor Niemoller's words: " First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist...." and so on, ending up: " Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me".

It doesn't just worry me it DISGUSTS me!

We live in very scary times
Many of us realise it
But what are we going to DO about it?
I wonder how many people saw what was going on when Hitler came to power?

undines

We live in very scary times
Many of us realise it
But what are we going to DO about it?
I wonder how many people saw what was going on when Hitler came to power?

That was the problem. Some did see it, but they were silenced or undermined.

I was told by a Leave voter that she wanted out of the EU because the European Court of Human Rights was preventing criminals from being deported. I told her that the ECHR had nothing to do with the EU but I don't think she believed me.

In the same wat another Leave voter said he wanted out because these Europeans never voted for us in the Eurovision Song Contest.

You are right "Maizie" when you point out that "It's the word 'European' that does it, volver. It's a real dog whistle. And look how well it works..."