Prince Charles has jeopardised his reign. amoneyccepting

The allegations have indeed been made in The Guardian. I know that since I’ve read them in The Guardian. I don’t think The Guardian is in any way trying to bring out
any issues on behalf of the government because things are going badly for them.

So how does that work Caleo? In a monarchy the eldest son (now child) becomes King/Queen. Are you going to take his money away?

I too feel th monachy should continue, but the monarch should be a comparatively poor person. The Windsors are too rich to be monarchs.

The Queen's parents had better public relations than the present day Windsors, due to the parents' behaviour during the second world war. True, King George V1 and Queen Elizabeth his consort did wear very posh clothes to visit bombsites but we can forgive that.

The present day Windsors can't afford to be rich and stupid aristocrats as the media are so very intrusive .

It's not a theory by the way. Just what we see happening with what the government call "wedge issues" that they bring out when things are going badly for them. They call them this, not me.

You are perfectly entitled to think that Caleo.

Daisy Anne I think your theory is a conspiracy theory. These allegations have been made in the Guardian which is a newspaper without political donors..

Farzanah

It is not angry to disagree, in fact it is healthy to question, none of us surely want to live in an echo chamber.
What I find unacceptable is to attack messengers, not the message.

I was talking about the government, the MSM, and various groups who are in this for their own reasons.

Am I not allowed to discuss these "messengers"? Or have I misunderstood what you are saying?

Yes I am the least anarchist person it's possible to be. I dont want to pull down institutions, I want institutions to develop and reform if necessary. I currently have concerns about the met police and certain charities that are making headlines. This does not mean I want to defund the police or abolish the voluntary sector. I have a number of concerns about a monarchy and its place in a modern society. This is not anarchy, I knew an anarchist once, she was er interesting to be around.

It is not angry to disagree, in fact it is healthy to question, none of us surely want to live in an echo chamber.
What I find unacceptable is to attack messengers, not the message.

Just to put the record straight I am not a republican and think the monarchy should continue. However experience of the way the Duchy of Cornwall behave, these 20 internal flights in the last year, and the latest charity donation from Qatar revelations, amongst other things make me seriously doubt that Charles will make a very good king.

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Caleo

I have been a monarchist but all these allegations about the Windsors' misbehaviour including misuse of natural resources(air travel), and accepting a gift with political strings attached, makes me change my mind.

It is intended to Caleo. It is an attempt to set yet another wedge between us all. Constitutional Parliamentary Sovereignty is not perfect but I have still to see someone explain what would be better.

It seems to me that throwing the baby out with the bath water is becoming the norm of those determined to show us how angry they are because that is all they can be.

No working at consensus, no understanding the reality of issues, no standing back and thinking we could, generally, work together on the problems of our world. People just want anger aimed at individuals because that gives them power. They don't tell us what that power if for however, because they don't have a plan. This isn't a very nice country to be part of at the moment. However, we have survived past problems and I have to believe we will survive the drive to anger too.

Avalon wrote:

"Prince Charles made 11 trips by private plane to avoid traffic according to The Telegraph, so maybe that’s what the extra cash is for - said she tongue in cheek. I suppose his time is valuable but how does he offset that against the well being of the eco environment which he likes to preach about? As I’ve said before he is a hypocrite."

I am sorry to have to agree. However, does he know he is a hypocrite? Can any rich man really be a good man?

I knew one rich man and his wife now deceased who explained their philanthropy thus " We had a lot of money we did n't need so we founded (this charity )with the money we didn't need. I knew their lifestyle subsequently was reasonably frugal and public spirited.

The Windsors do not measure up to that moral stature. I wish they did!

I have been a monarchist but all these allegations about the Windsors' misbehaviour including misuse of natural resources(air travel), and accepting a gift with political strings attached, makes me change my mind.

25Avalon

Anniebach

11 trips in a year, a month, a week ?

Sorry that should be Charles made 20 flights in the UL last year to avoid being stuck in traffic, according to The Telegraph.

... and?

Why can't they take the train"?

www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/the-queen-spotted-at-edinburgh-waverley-before-taking-part-in-historic-ceremony-at-palace-of-holyroodhouse-3748272

The problem I have with the RF is not their cost but the lack of transparency around their financial affairs, and that they can influence prospective legislation via the Queen’s Consent.
This secrecy in a modern democracy does not sit well.

volver

Anybody can post anything they like that's within the rules and making fun of other posters, and ganging up on them is childish, and like a scene out of Mean Girls.

That's right I agree with you volver

Anybody can post anything they like that's within the rules and making fun of other posters, and ganging up on them is childish, and like a scene out of Mean Girls.

Callistemon21

We knew it wouldn't be long
?

An elderly Head of State and her family raking it in and a corrupt PM we must be a laughing stock to other countries

Exactly

We knew it wouldn't be long
?

Financial report from palace

This is disgusting

The Queen will receive an inflation-defying “bonus” of nearly £30m from the public purse over the next two years thanks to an obscure rule which means her income cannot go down.

Now £100 million give to RF this does not include security ect

They also claim the Sovereign Grant is used "solely for official expenses", yet it covers the cost of all their travel, even when travelling for private purposes. They also claim the grant covers security, which is untrue.

Royal accounts have revealed the Queen overspent by £14.9million last year and the Palace had to dip into reserves. Which is public money from the treasury.

Let's be clear, none of this is normal. There is no justification for our head of state spending this kind of money in a single year. None. Other similar heads of state cost a fraction of this amount

"We need to put the monarchy on a proper budgetary footing, just like any other public body. We need to slash that budget down to below £10m, and only fund what's required for the functions of the head of state."

Then we need to #AbolishTheMonarchy

Why can't they take the train?"

Royal author Norman Baker responds to the release of the royal accounts, which include the cost of a chartered flight from Glasgow to London.

twitter.com/ImIncorrigible/status/1542420360464932866?s=20&t=DbTTqoobJfvBDBqRWjqWhw

There will be more old stories dug up to ensure that they are talked about instead of examining further the antics of our dodgy PM. Meanwhile we have his grandstanding on the world stage and Ukraine to deflect criticism. Just hope the money he is offering poor Ukraine is really there and not a spur of the moment statement he has made without consultation with the cabinet.

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