Maizie of course we should discuss assaults (groping is obviously an assault if it is non consensual) but it’s one thing discussing assaults which are proven to have taken place, and quite another to discuss assaults that are ‘rumoured’ or ‘speculation.’ These are not proven and Diane Abbott herself apparently said these were rumoured. In other words gossip.
When I said it’s best to avoid discussing other people’s sex lives, I was meaning in the context of our own lives. No good ever comes out of discussing the rumoured sex lives of our neighbours, friends, or colleagues. It seems best to me to avoid doing that, and with politicians the same is probably true. If it’s a rumour, which Diane Abbott suggests it is, then it cannot be concluded that it’s true, and therefore if anyone discusses it, it becomes gossip.
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Boris hairdresser pregnant story
(74 Posts)When I heard the persistent story that there is a court injunction preventing the British press from reporting that Boris got his hairdresser pregnant and she was sent out of the way to Canada I was shocked.
Shocked that he ever had a hairdresser.
Does anything shock you now about Boris?
Sorry, can't stand Ms Abbot standing on the moral high ground of any subject that comes up in that 'patiently nagging' voice of hers. And there are plenty of 'rumours' about her too.
Those who live in glass houses and throwing stones comes to mind.
BJ takes amorality to a different level; we all think so and despair. Ms Abbot did not need to put in her tarnished ha'pence worth.
FannyCornforth
Esspee have you seen my ‘Lies’ thread?
(No one is looking at it)
I hadn’t Fanny but I have now responded.
I’m trying to work and sneaking in the odd delve into Gransnet when I can.
Hope you are improving every day. ?
Finally! ? ?
Thank you Esspee, I’m feeling much, much better.
The first ten days or so were rough!
According to MSM 10 Downing St have now admitted that Johnson did know about allegations made regarding Pincher before he was appointed to Government. Have they learned nothing? Surely by now you'd think they would have realised that it's folly to deny things are true as invariably the truth comes out in the end. Their PR people need sacking!
Daddima
‘As for his hair and general appearance - it seems to be a fact of life that some men always looked 'crumpled' due to body shape or poor tailoring, whatever, but shower daily and are clean. Johnson appears to be one of those unfortunate individuals and I'm not, personally, going to condemn him for it.’
This is him on Have I Got News For You a few years ago. Paul Merton actually asked him why he had ruffled his hair before filming.Does he imagine the messy hair adds something to his appearance?
Does he imagine the messy hair adds something to his appearance?
Quite possible!
I've seen people run their hands through their hair when thinking, or exasperated with something. I think with Johnson it's become a habit that he knows has an appeal to those who think "he's doing his best"... the 'little-boy-lost' coupled with the 'loveable rogue' image.
I wonder if he had his hair 'gelled' into place before that programme?
.. I don't think there's anything wrong in having a giggle at some of the comments about his hair
My hair is what you might call "difficult" as well, Dickens
But I do try my best to tame it
Boris's father was accused of groping one woman, smacking another's bottom and breaking his wife's nose. His wife later said he hit her and made her feel like she deserved it.
He made the family's au pairs walk around naked and had an affair with one of them in front of the children.
There's certainly form in that family.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/16/stanley-johnson-accused-of-inappropriately-touching-tory-mp
lixy
Sorry, can't stand Ms Abbot standing on the moral high ground of any subject that comes up in that 'patiently nagging' voice of hers. And there are plenty of 'rumours' about her too.
Those who live in glass houses and throwing stones comes to mind.
BJ takes amorality to a different level; we all think so and despair. Ms Abbot did not need to put in her tarnished ha'pence worth.
Why is she tarnished? Because she's an older, Black woman in authority? Or because she's left-wing?
I certainly don't think she's tarnished. The only thing I dislike about her is that she sent her child to private school, which should've been against her left-wing principles.
She is certainly no where near the scale of the disgusting BJ.
Don’t forget that women also assault men. I once worked for a woman boss who would take male clients out to dinner and would play footsie under the table with them, and generally lead them on, just enough to get them to sign contracts etc. She was quite open about it with her staff. Should she be now charged with assault or using her privilege to her advantage
Diane Abbot sips mojito on a train. Press livid with rage.
Johnson gets a blow job on a Foreign Office sofa and promises a £100,000 job to the blower. Press silence.
Gagajo. The comments about Diane Abbot relate to her affair with Jeremy Corbyn I would assume. Nothing to do with race, age, or politics.
Callistemon21
.. I don't think there's anything wrong in having a giggle at some of the comments about his hair
My hair is what you might call "difficult" as well, Dickens
But I do try my best to tame it
My hair is what you might call "difficult" as well, Dickens
But I do try my best to tame it.
I hope you give it a good talking to, and putting it in its place
.
Actually, I envy you - I would love to have 'difficult' hair - mine's thinned through age, and various medical conditions and their subsequent treatments have diminished it.
I think Johnson's hair is the least of his 'issues' in fact. I had a cousin whose hair always looked like there was a hovercraft hovering over it on a permanent basis, much like Johnson's hair... it was Brylcreemed into place on 'special' occasions.
Munchy25
Don’t forget that women also assault men. I once worked for a woman boss who would take male clients out to dinner and would play footsie under the table with them, and generally lead them on, just enough to get them to sign contracts etc. She was quite open about it with her staff. Should she be now charged with assault or using her privilege to her advantage
Should she be now charged with assault or using her privilege to her advantage
In theory, yes.
If a man did that to a woman (tho' it might have the opposite effect) he could certainly be accused of abusing his privilege.
Are people talking about the abbot and Corbyn relationship. They were both single werent they or have I missed something.
MaizieD
KatieKnitsSocks
Is this just another chaff story to distract the media and us - all part of the Johnson master plan? Remember this interview? Deliberately done to that he can steal on quietly dropping his depth chargers wherever he wants to.
www.indy100.com/politics/boris-johnson-strategy-confuse-mediaWhat I want to know, chaff story or not, is why isn't the entire population of the UK utterly disgusted by this man?
I've just been watching a James O'Brien clip from 30th June and his closing comments struck a chord.
mobile.twitter.com/LBC/status/1542457782376472576
Me too!
Who the heck voted for him and the ridiculous Brexit, which has been a huge disaster??
Looks as though by Christmas we may have a bread crisis as the flour mills aren't able to get the decent wheat - the UK doesn't grow it and most UK farmers just grow the stuff for animal feed. A lot of wheat used to come from Ukraine, but that won't be happening for a year or two now; the decent organic spelt this mill uses comes from Germany, it's there, but there are no lorry drivers to bring it! Brilliant Brexit eh?
Galaxy
Are people talking about the abbot and Corbyn relationship. They were both single werent they or have I missed something.
Exactly. No adultery there.
Thanks. How bizarre. I dont know how to break it to people but presumably pretty much everyone on this forum has had (shock) had a relationship with another person.
Galaxy
Are people talking about the abbot and Corbyn relationship. They were both single werent they or have I missed something.
Was Corbyn was married to his first wife at the time?
Or had they split up?
According to the info I can see he had split up from his wife. It was in the daily mail who I am sure would not operate as his PR person 
?
Diane Abbott didn’t mention the pregnant hairdresser rumour. It’s become what I understand to be ‘viral’. That is repeated on the internet and in the foreign press
Downing Street initially denied Johnson was aware of allegations Pincher frequently indecently assaulted men, then of course by lunch time were confirming, yes the PM did now at the point he gave him the whips job. Booming silence on the (alleged ) sexualised behaviour from him and the current Mrs Johnson , at his workplace when he tried to get her a £100,000 job. And on the hairdresser story
Shameful
Whatever you think about Diane Abbott, she isn’t the one who is Prime Minister and purporting to run the country and delivering all those peoples priorities. A PM should certainly have integrity, honesty and sincerity.
Johnson lacks all of these.
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