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Javid and Sunak have both resigned their cabinet posts….

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MayBee70 Tue 05-Jul-22 18:15:06

Who’s next?

MayBee70 Wed 06-Jul-22 13:33:09

growstuff

bevisp1

I’m all for BJ, but lately it seems that for him, there is one thing after another. I’d hate to see him go, I thought after partygate he might just be able to carry on. He does a lot of good stuff too, maybe this latest is just one step too far. If he goes then I’d rather ‘Dishy’ Rishi gets in as PM.
When can politics get back to as it was before. All it seems is Covid, Ukraine/Russia, shootings, partygate & now this. All the PM & MP’s time is taken up with this.

What good stuff does Johnson do?

40 new hospitals, nuclear power stations, space programme. And he was totally responsible for developing and administering covid vaccines doncha’know….

Summerlove Wed 06-Jul-22 13:31:42

sandelf

Is this a result of the Chris Pincher row? So silly. I worked for a place whose national patron was a nuisance. We just made sure no one was alone with him, no closed doors, don't let him be between you and the door. He was after ladies, but the chaps all knew about it and helped us. Strikes me this fuss is political and whipped up by the BBC.

None of that is okay, you do know that don't you?

Men "helping" or not, no one should be allowed to behave that way.

What if the men hadn't "helped"?

I'm disgusted for the women forced to deal with that.

growstuff Wed 06-Jul-22 13:29:03

coastalgran

At least it's not boring with old Boris in charge. Interesting it is the two immigrant sons who have resigned and that the cabinet is looking a tad WASP again.

Why is it relevant that they are both sons of immigrants?

growstuff Wed 06-Jul-22 13:27:00

bevisp1

I’m all for BJ, but lately it seems that for him, there is one thing after another. I’d hate to see him go, I thought after partygate he might just be able to carry on. He does a lot of good stuff too, maybe this latest is just one step too far. If he goes then I’d rather ‘Dishy’ Rishi gets in as PM.
When can politics get back to as it was before. All it seems is Covid, Ukraine/Russia, shootings, partygate & now this. All the PM & MP’s time is taken up with this.

What good stuff does Johnson do?

Esspee Wed 06-Jul-22 13:26:44

M0nica

Talk about marrying a midden for muck, Zahawi and Barclay are marked for life for being the rats that joined the sinking ship. Men who put advancement and personal interest before any sense honour and decency

I’m with you there 100% M0nica.

growstuff Wed 06-Jul-22 13:26:21

sandelf

Is this a result of the Chris Pincher row? So silly. I worked for a place whose national patron was a nuisance. We just made sure no one was alone with him, no closed doors, don't let him be between you and the door. He was after ladies, but the chaps all knew about it and helped us. Strikes me this fuss is political and whipped up by the BBC.

It's a culmination of lack of trust, lying (even to Parliament), getting other people to take the rap, broken promises, arrogance, cronyism, etc etc.

Purplepixie Wed 06-Jul-22 13:22:31

PMQ’s were interesting and fantastic, all rolled into one. Did anyone else notice that Nadine was staring at Boris with loving eyes? DH says she’s nuts. Also it was annoying to watch her keep whispering. I will now give Boris one week.

bevisp1 Wed 06-Jul-22 13:19:33

I’m all for BJ, but lately it seems that for him, there is one thing after another. I’d hate to see him go, I thought after partygate he might just be able to carry on. He does a lot of good stuff too, maybe this latest is just one step too far. If he goes then I’d rather ‘Dishy’ Rishi gets in as PM.
When can politics get back to as it was before. All it seems is Covid, Ukraine/Russia, shootings, partygate & now this. All the PM & MP’s time is taken up with this.

MaizieD Wed 06-Jul-22 13:15:43

Jaxjacky

18 now Nannina and there will be more. Like slowly pulling a plaster off instead of ripping it off in one fell swoop.

I hope it hurts as much grin

MaizieD Wed 06-Jul-22 13:15:02

cc

Heaven knows what will happen to our economy now. Rishi Sunak is an extremely well qualified, clever and experienced man, and a very capable Chancellor. His replacement Nadhim Zahawi is none of these things.

Rishi has absolutely no clue about how a national economy works. He's just good at making money. Surprisingly enough this is not a good qualification for a Chancellor. Nor for a PM. I don't expect his replacement to be any better.

The thing about the wealthy is that they make their money by exploiting the poor and sucking money out of the economy. They are leeches, with no understanding of considering the needs of all the nation's citizens...

MaizieD Wed 06-Jul-22 13:09:31

cc

A side issue (apologies) but interesting that people are mentioning Margaret Thatcher. Everyone seems to have forgotten that she was the one who privatised Gas, Electricity and Water companies. How much better it would be for us if these were properly run national institutions now rather that companies out to make a profit for their over-paid board members and to pay dividends to shareholders. Many of them are now offshoots of overseas companies with little or no interest in protecting UK consumers.

I don't think that anyone who mentioned her was admiring of her way of governing. She was appalling and sowed the seeds of the dreadful situation we are in now with her privatisation, destruction of industry and her insistence that 'there is no such thing as society' and that taxes fund government spending, which they most certainly do not.

Let's not forget that she won her first election on the 'Labour isn't working' slogan, when unemployment was 1 million and promptly pushed the unemployment figure up to 3 million.

The only 'good' thing she did was to pioneer the Single Market.

Nope, cc. Many of us haven't forgotten.

Jaxjacky Wed 06-Jul-22 13:07:52

18 now Nannina and there will be more. Like slowly pulling a plaster off instead of ripping it off in one fell swoop.

Nannina Wed 06-Jul-22 13:01:25

16 MPs now resigned but 14 were in junior positions. People like Nadine Dorris and Pritti Patel will hang on until the end as they know they wouldn’t get cabinet positions with any other Tory leader. Chancellor and Health Secretary have supported Boris through all the scandals but could see the writing on the route wall so jumped ship in the hope of future cabinet posts or even the leadership will be up for grabs. Hypocrites the lot of them

Jaxjacky Wed 06-Jul-22 12:59:22

Two more have resigned, Environment minister and Housing minister.

Treetops05 Wed 06-Jul-22 12:56:00

Sadly, certain people will always vote Tory, but hopefully their votes will drop

spabbygirl Wed 06-Jul-22 12:46:30

what a mess this gov't is in, I never thought I'd see it this bad. I can't see anyone voting tory again, and if the next gov't get in hopefully they'll get some sort of PR established so we never have to suffer this from a gov't few voted for again. we also need some sort of repercussion for any MP who misleads the public and parliament as Boris has done. what a disgrace the tories are

cc Wed 06-Jul-22 12:40:02

A side issue (apologies) but interesting that people are mentioning Margaret Thatcher. Everyone seems to have forgotten that she was the one who privatised Gas, Electricity and Water companies. How much better it would be for us if these were properly run national institutions now rather that companies out to make a profit for their over-paid board members and to pay dividends to shareholders. Many of them are now offshoots of overseas companies with little or no interest in protecting UK consumers.

coastalgran Wed 06-Jul-22 12:38:55

At least it's not boring with old Boris in charge. Interesting it is the two immigrant sons who have resigned and that the cabinet is looking a tad WASP again.

sandelf Wed 06-Jul-22 12:33:27

Is this a result of the Chris Pincher row? So silly. I worked for a place whose national patron was a nuisance. We just made sure no one was alone with him, no closed doors, don't let him be between you and the door. He was after ladies, but the chaps all knew about it and helped us. Strikes me this fuss is political and whipped up by the BBC.

cc Wed 06-Jul-22 12:28:52

Heaven knows what will happen to our economy now. Rishi Sunak is an extremely well qualified, clever and experienced man, and a very capable Chancellor. His replacement Nadhim Zahawi is none of these things.

Nannan2 Wed 06-Jul-22 12:27:33

OMG! 2025! Really? Oh my word!

Nannan2 Wed 06-Jul-22 12:19:55

Surely they won't make us stick with the tories till 2024 with the situation as it is??? That would be ludicrous!

Casdon Wed 06-Jul-22 12:19:02

MaggsMcG

Casdon the next actual date for the election is May 2024 NOT 2023.

My mistake, sorry - I just looked it up, it’s actually January 2025 (not sure why, maybe it’s 5 years 3 months maximum term?) so quite a long way to go yet.

Nannan2 Wed 06-Jul-22 12:17:27

Does that mean that all these 'extra payments' promised by Rishi will NOT go ahead now? Methinks could be a tactical move that, on Gov'ts part- just so they won't have to pay out hundreds to households to help with cost of living as promised.??

MaggsMcG Wed 06-Jul-22 12:16:55

My local Conservative MP has been quite supportive in things I believe in locally but he is resigning before the next election anyway. I will probably spoil my ballot paper or not even other to vote as I don't like any of the current prospects from either of the two main parties. Politicians LIE, ALL OF THEM, always have and always will. They tell you what they think you want to hear and then once you vote for them do something completely difference and always have an excuse.