Next Tory leader

Please not Steve Baker. If he was in the USA he would join his fellow evangelicals and vote for Trump with all that implies - anti-abortion etc.

He recently announced that the bible says that god does not believe in democracy. Kings apparently.

Very weird man, from the hard right.

According to the Daily Mail Boris Johnson is the best the Tory Party has to offer

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10989609/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-truth-Mr-Johnson-stands-head-shoulders-assassins.html

The leader of the party makes a big difference to the “floating” voters, a lot voted for Johnson because the liked the personality, and a lot didn’t vote for Corbyn for the same reason.

nannashirlz You obviously think we have a Presidential system in this country like the USA. We do not. We do not vote for a person we vote for a party or our individual MP

The only people who voted for Boris Johnson in the last election were the voters in the constituency he represents. And he is still an MP and still represents the electorate that voted for him.

Anyway, you only have to look at the opinion polls to know that Boris Johnson has lost the confidence of the electorate, and the respect of international leaders.

If you want your country run by a lying cheating shirker, who cannot be trusted in any situation. take American citizenship and sign up with Trump.

Those vox pop interviews they do on TV always include a few inarticulate, usually elderly folk in marginal constituencies who say they like Boris and the has “done his best” , showing how easy it is to convince some people that he is a “character” who will therefore be good at leading the country. When asked about his lying , coverups etc, they usually brush that off as not fitting in with the narrative they believe. Thank goodness some of the Tory party have woken up to his lack of integrity, dishonesty, laziness and tendency to ignore impropriety in others (as he is guilty of the same). If you look back in history very few PMs have been “voted out” in a general election. They all get forced out or resign voluntarily beforehand.

Allsorts

Of course there are decent Tories, just as you can’t judge Labour by Blair who told a bigger lie than him or by supporters of Corbyn, the least said about him the better. You go by the general principles and aims of the party, but I honestly can’t think of anyone to lead. The person who really gets on my wick is Kier Starmer, his constant whinging about small things and ignorance of the bigger picture, I think he only knows and recites the same few sentences, he really is so boring.

That's why they call him Legoman!

Lucca

Nannashirlz

How about what’s the point if ppl vote someone should it not be up to the people ppl to vote them out not a Mp. If you don’t like your job find a new job not do a witch-hunt

What?

I think she means that she voted for Boris so it should be up to her (and all the others who voted for him specifically) to vote him out.

Or something.

Nannashirlz

How about what’s the point if ppl vote someone should it not be up to the people ppl to vote them out not a Mp. If you don’t like your job find a new job not do a witch-hunt

What?

Allsorts

Of course there are decent Tories, just as you can’t judge Labour by Blair who told a bigger lie than him or by supporters of Corbyn, the least said about him the better. You go by the general principles and aims of the party, but I honestly can’t think of anyone to lead. The person who really gets on my wick is Kier Starmer, his constant whinging about small things and ignorance of the bigger picture, I think he only knows and recites the same few sentences, he really is so boring.

Keir starmer ? Not likely to lead the Tory party?
Also not boring
Well spoken
Doesn’t waffle

grannydarkhair

For those who still support BJ, a reminder of just who he is.

twitter.com/bydonkeys/status/1544933256251842561?s=21&t=o3MHYTxOUAmmVFvUHvbwoA

... it won't make any difference.

He has shown his contempt for the ordinary working class voter - it's there, on record - but they will still support/ vote for him.

Maybe because he also mocks and denigrates the same people that they dislike?

It is beyond credence that anyone might be taking Truss seriously as a candidate.

For those who still support BJ, a reminder of just who he is.

twitter.com/bydonkeys/status/1544933256251842561?s=21&t=o3MHYTxOUAmmVFvUHvbwoA

Kandinsky

Rishi Sunak will probably get the job.

Let's hope he doesn't - his wife only stopped being "non dom". and began paying tax when she was exposed. I remember he said he "was going back to India", how could he do that when he was born in Southampton? He is just as crafty and a liar like Boris. It would be nice to have a straight forward person who really wants to improve the country for the people, someone honest and trustworthy

I like Tom T. I’m not a Tory so that may mean he’s not right wing enough for thrm
Rory Stewart like Andy Burnham needs a constituency to be a leader
Andy B very welcome to stand in my marginal red wall seat. It’s here to be won

Tom Tugendhat. Ex-Army. Sound as a pound.

I didn't read Peasblossom, now deleted post, but it reminded me of the things that used get said about catholics, even in the 1960s.

It was thought that if a catholic got near the levers of power, especially if he became Prime Minster, he would abolish the Church of England, that his main allegiance would be to his faith, and the Pope would be the power behind the government.

Funny how the old myths go round and around, just being updated to match the current zeitgeist.

I also read Peaseblossom’s (^now deleted^) post and wrote to several of my former students, both Muslim, Sikh, Christian and un-Religious to welcome the possibility of Britain’s next Prime Minister being a first generation immigrant, as so many of them were in the nineties, and, by chance, also a Conservative MP. What a wonderful retort to the BLM movement with it’s “Britain is as racist as America” agenda, which is blatantly false and as big a lie as any of Johnson’s, and what a contrast to my own upbringing in the 1950’s, in the enormously racist, Medway Towns, now a byword for racial harmony, in the main.

Of course Britain still has the odd racist and we still have far to go, but whether it is Priti, Javid, Stella, Nadhim, Kwasi, Shailesh, or someone completely different, what does this say about how being an immigrant is no barrier, albeit it might be a hurdle, to being successful in UK in 2022.

Ben Wallace ?

Peaseblossom, your post was deleted, I saw it quoted by other posters so I’m aware of your fear of the possibility of sharia courts. Your views are ill-informed and could be viewed as racist.
Sharia Courts have existed in the Uk since the early 1980’s. They’re used by some Muslims to arbitrate in civil matters. Campaigners and politicians express concern that Muslim women are discriminated against when family disputes are resolved under Sharia.
My own view is that most Muslim women would benefit more from British civil / family courts, than Sharia. I’m not Muslim, I’m an older feminist so I expect I would take that view.
I’m not in the least worried about the prospect of a Muslim prime minister

After we have incontrovertible proof of Johnson and many of his ministers lying again and again and again, the last resort of the right wing press is to persuade their more gullible readers that "all politicians are the same"

No they are not.

Politicians Lie! All of them. Its just a matter of what they are lying about and who they are lying to. They promise things during election campaigns and never follow through. They favour their friends and sponsors and lie about their expenses. They also cover up for each other. Its only when it gets out of hand that they end up having to answer for it. The media deliberately fish for scandal and usually find it. I wouldn't trust any of them to run the country fairly. I don't want a Labour Government that will allow the Unions to rule the country and hold us all to ransome. I remember the power cuts and strikes from the 70's. The Unions have a place to protect workers but they should not be allowed to hold the country to ransome. Still I'm of an age that its not going to make much difference to me so I'll just sit back and watch.

Now we are out of the EU it doesn't have to be a Brexity person does it?

Problem is many of the Tory grassroots are blinkered and stuck on ideology - if Farage were eligible he'd likely win!

Potential Conservative leaders have been quietly fading into the woodwork to try and avoid guilt by association. Just like many Labour MPs did when Corbyn led the party.

I see Corbyn’s latest tweet suggests setting up a new party after having 3 PM’s in 6 years. Has he been chatting to TonyBlair?

I honestly can't think of any of the current/recent Cabinet who would make a decent PM.

Maybe someone will emerge from the back benches.