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Next Tory leader

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varian Tue 05-Jul-22 20:56:24

The Tory party needs a leader who demonstartes the prevailing standards of moral probity or intelligence

How about Chris Pincher or David Warburton if moral probity is key or Nadine Dorries or Jacon Rees Mogg to demonstrate the typical level of intelligence?

LadyGracie Wed 06-Jul-22 15:26:55

We need a new broom altogether, Andrew RT Davies would be good. Pity that would never happen.

Dinahmo Wed 06-Jul-22 15:15:10

RichmondPark

I hated Thatcher, but I never thought she was out to sell the country down the river for her own personal gain. I can't say the same fo Johnson or the filibustering, profiteering, anti-abortion even on medical grounds or grounds of rape Mogg.

Not her own personal gain but that of her son Mark who benefited from the arms deal she signed with Saudi Arabia in 1985.

MaizieD Wed 06-Jul-22 15:04:49

Just hearing that more ministers etc have resigned.

I've just taken a quick break from gardening to catch up on twitter and it seems the tally is (was?) 27 people with ministerial posts out of a total of 122.

silverlining48 Wed 06-Jul-22 15:01:44

Javid’s address to parliament today was very good and seemed sincere... but who knows.
Just hearing that more ministers etc have resigned. It must be when not if after all this. But he will be kicking and screaming...

MaizieD Wed 06-Jul-22 15:01:14

Iam64

It’s a strange world where those of us who loathed Thatcher now add her to Clarke, Heseltine and more as honest tories we d prefer to johbson

We're only mentioning her integrity, Iam as a contrast to the greased piglet.. For me that doesn't indicate approval of any kind at all for her.

silverlining48 Wed 06-Jul-22 14:57:19

Let’s hope it’s when and not if.

Spinnaker Wed 06-Jul-22 14:40:25

travelsafar

I believe that Rishi Sunak has resigned along with Javid as both of them will try to go for the PM job if Boris is outed or resigns.

I think you're right travelsafar. I also think that those quitting now will have been offered a seat at the new table of either Sunak or Javid, if and when Johnson goes.

Iam64 Wed 06-Jul-22 14:34:09

It’s a strange world where those of us who loathed Thatcher now add her to Clarke, Heseltine and more as honest tories we d prefer to johbson

Dickens Wed 06-Jul-22 12:11:34

RichmondPark

I hated Thatcher, but I never thought she was out to sell the country down the river for her own personal gain. I can't say the same fo Johnson or the filibustering, profiteering, anti-abortion even on medical grounds or grounds of rape Mogg.

... I disliked Thatcher, intensely.

But the difference between her and Johnson is that I think she genuinely believed in her ideology. It was not a means to an end - it was the end that mattered to her.

For that, I can give her, grudgingly, respect.

Shinamae Wed 06-Jul-22 11:33:45

Bagpuss!!! ?

Bea65 Wed 06-Jul-22 11:28:23

travelsafar my thoughts last night was they both exited to force Boris out and then the both of them come roaring back in!

RichmondPark Wed 06-Jul-22 11:20:59

I hated Thatcher, but I never thought she was out to sell the country down the river for her own personal gain. I can't say the same fo Johnson or the filibustering, profiteering, anti-abortion even on medical grounds or grounds of rape Mogg.

Visgir1 Wed 06-Jul-22 11:03:55

Let's face it.. Unless BJ quits he's safe until next May.
It's in the hands of Graham Brady, let's hope he can sort this?

My money as I said on GM months ago is on Penny Mordaunt, but expect it will be Truss..

ayse Wed 06-Jul-22 10:59:47

I fear that if any of the names being touted as possible party leaders were to actually gain the post they would just be more efficient destroyers of the UK than is the present incumbent. They have been firmly behind every bit of fascist legislation put forward by this government.* MaizieD

I agree absolutely. There are surely one or two decent Tories amongst the back benchers. I was no Thatcher lover but at least she had some integrity.

MaizieD Wed 06-Jul-22 10:44:19

Grandmabatty

Rees Mogg has integrity? The devout Catholic who voted against abortion but owns a company which produces abortion pills? That Mogg? The condescending sneering pencil who lies almost as much as Johnson? Okay then. ?

I thought that the post you were responding to was a parody!

There isn't a single member of this tory government who can be seen as having any integrity. And they certainly don't have the interests of the UK and its citizens anywhere near their hearts...

I fear that if any of the names being touted as possible party leaders were to actually gain the post they would just be more efficient destroyers of the UK than is the present incumbent. They have been firmly behind every bit of fascist legislation put forward by this government.*

(* I suggest that people read the article I linked to on the thread I started recently)

paddyann54 Wed 06-Jul-22 10:42:23

Patel or Truss? the world will fall about laughing ,dumb and dumber comes to mind.Though the same can be said of most of the current Tory gaggle of liars ,cheats ,thieves .

maddyone Wed 06-Jul-22 10:42:17

I reckon Sunak is after the job.

I think that too.

Boz Wed 06-Jul-22 10:38:43

Who in their right mind would want to be the next P.M.. We are heading for a recession and the Winter ahead looks bleak for a lot of people. I think a GE is looming next Spring which Labour will win.

Glorianny Wed 06-Jul-22 10:38:25

Oh come on it's got to be Liz Truss hasn't it? grin
Or what about Priti Patel???

Boz Wed 06-Jul-22 10:36:00

I had to turn old Mogg off last evening. His supercilousness is unbearable.

Boz Wed 06-Jul-22 10:34:34

Johnson, on the whole, surrounds himself with 3rd raters. Do you really imagine Mrs. T. having Patel or Dorries sitting in the Cabinet?

Sandybeth Wed 06-Jul-22 10:33:42

From my understanding Rees Mog sold the shares that his company held in FBC in 2017. As a Christian, I support his anti abortion vote.

travelsafar Wed 06-Jul-22 10:32:13

I believe that Rishi Sunak has resigned along with Javid as both of them will try to go for the PM job if Boris is outed or resigns.

Jaxjacky Wed 06-Jul-22 10:20:10

Penny Mordaunt is being touted as a dark horse.

Smileless2012 Wed 06-Jul-22 10:14:27

Good one RichmondParkgrin.