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Johnson must go immediately

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 07-Jul-22 09:59:24

He can’t possibly stay as is being suggested until the autumn.

Far too much damage is being done, and surely the Tory party can’t trust him one inch!

lemsip Fri 08-Jul-22 08:04:35

why don't commenters read through already posted comments.........then we wouldn't get so many saying the same!

J52 Fri 08-Jul-22 08:17:56

lemsip

why don't commenters read through already posted comments.........then we wouldn't get so many saying the same!

This is the reason I don’t often post, it’s already been said.
May I say, often very eloquently.

GrumpyGrandy Sun 10-Jul-22 11:23:46

Whatever we may think of Boris, he is the one that the country needs at this time.

There will be many regrets over him being hounded out.

No he’s not perfect but far better than any politician on either side of the political landscape.

red1 Sun 10-Jul-22 11:28:03

he never should have got it in the first place, but will the uk general public eventually realise how rotten the tories are? its about time the tory party was ended and replaced with a kinder form of politics, maybe dalai lama as the head? or am i dreaming?!

Kandinsky Sun 10-Jul-22 11:43:34

The people voted Boris in - why is it down to slippery MP’s to get rid of him?
How is that democracy? They only want him out so they can have his job, & people are cheering them on?
Nothing will change under Rishi or any of the other back stabbers.

winterwhite Sun 10-Jul-22 11:47:38

" No he’s not perfect but far better than any politician on either side of the political landscape."

Fighting talk! GG. In what ways do you think BJ is far better than any other politician?

Grantanow Sun 10-Jul-22 11:49:44

He probably wants to stay long enough to put Dorries in the Lord's. Lord help us!

NotSpaghetti Sun 10-Jul-22 11:51:55

GrumpyGrandy I think many of us feel he is the last thing we need right now.
Obviously a few, like you, think he is a good PM but many of us have found him to be selfish and totally unacceptable from day one...

As someone in politics once said, he has a problem with pronouns - he only thinks one of them matters - I

This, by way of contrast, is an old interview with Kier Starmer.

uk-podcasts.co.uk/podcast/full-disclosure-with-james-o-brien/keir-starmer

I only found it yesterday so I suppose some may have heard it. It explains a lot about the person and how he contrasts sharply with our current PM especially in areas such as motivation and purpose.

sundowngirl Sun 10-Jul-22 11:53:10

GrumpyGrandy

Whatever we may think of Boris, he is the one that the country needs at this time.

There will be many regrets over him being hounded out.

No he’s not perfect but far better than any politician on either side of the political landscape.

I so agree with you GG. I am so sorry that Boris has been hounded out and the country will worse off without him a the helm.

MayBee70 Sun 10-Jul-22 11:54:03

GrumpyGrandy

Whatever we may think of Boris, he is the one that the country needs at this time.

There will be many regrets over him being hounded out.

No he’s not perfect but far better than any politician on either side of the political landscape.

He’s not being hounded out. He’s been found, by his own party, to be unfit for office and a danger to the country. And believe me more and more will come out about him over the next few weeks.

MayBee70 Sun 10-Jul-22 11:54:45

Grantanow

He probably wants to stay long enough to put Dorries in the Lord's. Lord help us!

That does seem to be the plan.

Iam64 Sun 10-Jul-22 11:55:16

Kandinsky

The people voted Boris in - why is it down to slippery MP’s to get rid of him?
How is that democracy? They only want him out so they can have his job, & people are cheering them on?
Nothing will change under Rishi or any of the other back stabbers.

‘The people’ booed Johnson at St Paul’s and many other places in recent weeks. Listen to phone ins, look at opinion polls, the majority want him gone. In the end, senior tories recognised Johnson had to go. He was a liability to the party.
He’s a liability to the country as well.

sundowngirl Sun 10-Jul-22 11:59:31

God help us if there is a general election and Kier Starmer is PM - he doesn't even know what a woman is! He says and does whatever he thinks will make him popular like taking the knee and now a u-turn on his Brexit stance. We need a strong leader not a wimp

MayBee70 Sun 10-Jul-22 12:02:40

sundowngirl

God help us if there is a general election and Kier Starmer is PM - he doesn't even know what a woman is! He says and does whatever he thinks will make him popular like taking the knee and now a u-turn on his Brexit stance. We need a strong leader not a wimp

No. He isn’t doing a u turn on brexit. If he said he would overturn brexit would you be happy with that? He’s being pragmatic.

Nannina Sun 10-Jul-22 12:10:36

I heard commentator saying he wanted to stay to use Chequers for his wedding anniversary bash but also because he’s hoping by some miracle the Tories will do a u turn and keep him as leader and call election. Typical entitled, narcissistic Boris. I’m not a Tory but I think the only choice is for someone not tainted by being involved with the current government supporting and enabling a lying, amoral, manipulate PM

DaisyAnne Sun 10-Jul-22 12:10:48

I think you have a strange view of our democracy, Kandinsky.

We did not "vote Boris in". We voted, as we always do, for our constituency MP. We are voting for our representative in Parliament. We do not do more than that. It is the way our democracy works. The leader of the largest party - voted for by the MPs/members - becomes the Prime Minister. That is what we always do.

How is that democracy?. It is how our democracy works. The MPs decide who they want to lead them - and who they don't. Why is that not democracy? We have a party system.

Nothing will change Of course, it will and change and change again. That is not democracy; that is life.

grandtanteJE65 Sun 10-Jul-22 12:14:06

My understanding is that a new leader of the Conservative party automatically becomes Prime Minister.

If I am correct Johnson can be forced out, as soon as the Conservatives get their act together and elect a new leader of the party.

DiamondLily Sun 10-Jul-22 12:21:19

Let's hope he actually goes....?

"Tory donors have privately asked if there is ‘any way’ to keep Boris Johnson as Prime Minister, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

The days after Ministers and MPs’ forced Mr Johnson into announcing his resignation, insiders reported that a kind of ‘buyers’ remorse’ was setting in among senior ranks.

One said the absence of a strong candidate to replace Mr Johnson has led to calls to find a way of keeping him as leader. ‘None of them are much good,’ the source said.

Several donors have asked if there is ‘any way’ it can be arranged for Mr Johnson to simply apologise for his mistakes and move on, but have been told this was not possible, The Mail on Sunday understands.

Another source said: ‘Donors have been saying they have buyers’ remorse. There is a feeling that we have lost this extraordinary politician. That he [Johnson] has been got at by the blob, Remainers and BBC."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10998895/Tory-donors-privately-asking-way-Boris-Johnson-PM.html

grandtanteJE65 Sun 10-Jul-22 12:22:29

Glorianny

I do wonder what the red wall are thinking watching this. Westminster elite deciding things again? Boris was our bloke? In some ways it is exactly what they claim has always happened. The north being ignored and London deciding.

Not that it is relevant because it is typical "Moscow speak" but Putin has already said that Boris Johnson has got what he deserves and has been forced to resign for daring to oppose Russia,

Presumably this is just his usual waffle and not an admition that Russia or Russians have been bribing Johnson at any time during his administration.

Mamie Sun 10-Jul-22 12:25:36

Daily Mail in wishful thinking mode DiamondLily.

Dinahmo Sun 10-Jul-22 12:29:09

Why do the Tory donors wish to keep Johnson in place?

Is it because once they've given enough money they'll get a peerage?

Because they want to benefit from more cronyism?

Because they want the dismantling of our laws to continue?

Any other reasons?

katy1950 Sun 10-Jul-22 12:41:10

What a load of rubbish the only person damaging the country is dom Cummings it's amazing that every word he say is believed by the media yet 18mths ago he was branded a liar and a snake in the grass . Then there is partygate and beergate same thing completely different outcomes it stinks. The media have done a hatchet job on boris he's no saint but he puts Britain first which makes a refreshing change

MayBee70 Sun 10-Jul-22 13:13:25

katy1950

What a load of rubbish the only person damaging the country is dom Cummings it's amazing that every word he say is believed by the media yet 18mths ago he was branded a liar and a snake in the grass . Then there is partygate and beergate same thing completely different outcomes it stinks. The media have done a hatchet job on boris he's no saint but he puts Britain first which makes a refreshing change

He puts Johnson first. Can you not see that? He really did have two articles written, leave and remain, because a fellow journalist on Sky News actually saw them. His decision was made for his personal ambition, nothing to do with the country.

Iam64 Sun 10-Jul-22 13:14:05

If that’s your belief katy1950 , you’re obviously entitled to it
Your vote at the next election weighs as much as Voters who actually see what’s happening but hey ho, this is how the country ended up with the charlatan Johnson in charge. Dominic Cummings helped him with the lies then so why you think people, or the media, believe what Cummings (or Johnson) say now I can’t imagine

DaisyAnne Sun 10-Jul-22 13:15:54

Dinahmo

Why do the Tory donors wish to keep Johnson in place?

Is it because once they've given enough money they'll get a peerage?

Because they want to benefit from more cronyism?

Because they want the dismantling of our laws to continue?

Any other reasons?

We are talking about the paper that supported Hitler. Have they gone very far in their thinking since then? I'm not at all sure they have.