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Johnson must go immediately

(194 Posts)
Whitewavemark2 Thu 07-Jul-22 09:59:24

He can’t possibly stay as is being suggested until the autumn.

Far too much damage is being done, and surely the Tory party can’t trust him one inch!

DaisyAnne Sun 10-Jul-22 13:19:16

The Horrible History of the Daily Mail

Saggi Sun 10-Jul-22 14:21:00

No government!!? The civil service runs the country ….surely you knew that! Doesn’t matter who’s in power . The civil service will keep it going despite Noris!!

Saggi Sun 10-Jul-22 14:21:18

‘Boris’

supergabs1960 Sun 10-Jul-22 14:23:39

I'd like to see Theresa May back as caretaker, then a general election

Daftbag1 Sun 10-Jul-22 14:42:54

When BJ was in hospital with Covid, his deputy stepped up. I can't see why he can't do the same now?

In addition Raab, the Deputy, has no plans to take part in the leadership competition.

Ramblingrose22 Sun 10-Jul-22 15:11:34

He should be chucked out immediately before he does any more damage.

I suppose a caretaker PM might be seen by the nuttiest Tories as some kind of traitor but as long as it's a person of integrity that will be fine.

Ramblingrose22 Sun 10-Jul-22 15:15:06

PS have read that Jacob R-M is suggesting that the candidates all want to "betray" Johnson's Brexit.
So it was OK for Johnson to rewrite parts of the Brexit agreement he signed but no-one else is allowed to!

Saetana Sun 10-Jul-22 16:02:47

There is no reason for Boris not to stay until a new leader is chosen - it was what happened with Theresa May and David Cameron. We are almost at summer recess and I understand the 1922 Committee are planning to get a leader in place ready for the start of the Autumn session. Not much happens whilst parliament isn't sitting anyway. I detect an unpleasant vindictiveness in those who want to get Johnson out immediately - he has resigned, that should be enough.

MayBee70 Sun 10-Jul-22 16:16:28

They didn’t leave for bringing government into disrepute….

Elegran Sun 10-Jul-22 16:17:57

DaisyAnne

Grany

Still not a word from our head of state. It’s almost as if our nation’s affairs are of no concern to her.

We are all biased but it doesn't need to blind us to the truth.

Having a go at some in the position of 'monarch' for obeying the rules of constitutional monarchy is just petty.

When our official (still) Prime Minister officially tells our Head of State that he is resigning, she will officially accept his resignation. Until then what do you expect her to do?

Glorianny Sun 10-Jul-22 16:20:03

Honestly it is easy enough to understand. If someone else becomes PM now and then doesn't become the leader of the Conservative party there is absolutely nothing that can be done if that person refuses to surrender the PM-ship in the Autumn. They can theoretically remain PM. The tradition of the leader of the largest party in the Commons becoming PM is just a tradition. Nothing is written down. Boris is the safer option.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 10-Jul-22 16:21:29

Elegran

DaisyAnne

Grany

Still not a word from our head of state. It’s almost as if our nation’s affairs are of no concern to her.

We are all biased but it doesn't need to blind us to the truth.

Having a go at some in the position of 'monarch' for obeying the rules of constitutional monarchy is just petty.

When our official (still) Prime Minister officially tells our Head of State that he is resigning, she will officially accept his resignation. Until then what do you expect her to do?

I have read that it has been suggested that Buck House contacted No 10 just before Johnson thread in the towel.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 10-Jul-22 16:22:02

Glorianny

Honestly it is easy enough to understand. If someone else becomes PM now and then doesn't become the leader of the Conservative party there is absolutely nothing that can be done if that person refuses to surrender the PM-ship in the Autumn. They can theoretically remain PM. The tradition of the leader of the largest party in the Commons becoming PM is just a tradition. Nothing is written down. Boris is the safer option.

???

MayBee70 Sun 10-Jul-22 16:23:19

They’re getting rid of him because he isn’t safe. That’s the whole point.

riete Sun 10-Jul-22 16:25:17

he probably thinks we'll all forget he was ousted, like he thought we'd forget he attended so many parties and get-togethers whilst the rest of the country weren't even allowed to say farewell to their loved ones.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 10-Jul-22 17:04:34

Interesting comment

ALASTAIR CAMPBELL

Many politicians, spooks,diplomats and media abroad are shocked that this is not a bigger story in ?? where It happened. I was eventually proved right that the Nolan principles would do for Johnson. I now predict the KGB scandal will see him end up in jail

sharon103 Sun 10-Jul-22 18:03:32

riete

he probably thinks we'll all forget he was ousted, like he thought we'd forget he attended so many parties and get-togethers whilst the rest of the country weren't even allowed to say farewell to their loved ones.

There were no vaccines at that time riete. Of course people weren't able to say farewell to loved one's for our own safety.
Turn the situation around.
If the rule had been that you for example could have gone to say farewell to someone, then you caught covid and died who would your family have blamed for letting you in? They would have blamed Boris. He couldn't win either way could he.

MayBee70 Sun 10-Jul-22 18:10:56

I don’t think anyone is complaining about the rules. It’s just that he set the rules and then broke them.

Iam64 Sun 10-Jul-22 18:42:41

sharon103

riete

he probably thinks we'll all forget he was ousted, like he thought we'd forget he attended so many parties and get-togethers whilst the rest of the country weren't even allowed to say farewell to their loved ones.

There were no vaccines at that time riete. Of course people weren't able to say farewell to loved one's for our own safety.
Turn the situation around.
If the rule had been that you for example could have gone to say farewell to someone, then you caught covid and died who would your family have blamed for letting you in? They would have blamed Boris. He couldn't win either way could he.

He could easily ‘win’, by following the rules and guidance like the rest of us did

Katie59 Sun 10-Jul-22 18:49:22

Johnson os PM until he stands down, if/when he does the Tory party will propose a replacement and Queen will accede to that replacement. No matter who is chosen there are going to be issues of bias, the party whips will not be able to manipulate any decisions because there is no one to be loyal to. I doubt anthing contentious will be changed, that will be left to the new PM to decide

Dinahmo Sun 10-Jul-22 18:57:02

katy1950

What a load of rubbish the only person damaging the country is dom Cummings it's amazing that every word he say is believed by the media yet 18mths ago he was branded a liar and a snake in the grass . Then there is partygate and beergate same thing completely different outcomes it stinks. The media have done a hatchet job on boris he's no saint but he puts Britain first which makes a refreshing change

Where have you been these last few months?

Beergate and partygate are not the same thing. Starmer, working in his constituency office with his colleagues had a beer and curry. That's all.

Johnson and his colleagues, sometimes without him, brought in loads of booze, held parties, sometimes with games and this resulted in fights and people throwing up and leaving their vomit and all their rubbish for the cleaners too deal with.

This is the not the same thing. It is however, entitled Tories in action.

Maybe one day the D Mail will change its tune (and pigs might fly) and where will you be then?

Dinahmo Sun 10-Jul-22 18:58:32

Whitewavemark2

Interesting comment

ALASTAIR CAMPBELL

Many politicians, spooks,diplomats and media abroad are shocked that this is not a bigger story in ?? where It happened. I was eventually proved right that the Nolan principles would do for Johnson. I now predict the KGB scandal will see him end up in jail

Let's hope.

Dinahmo Sun 10-Jul-22 19:06:45

Poem by Brian Bilston - just to amuse in a very depressing post

How Much I Dislike the Daily Mail

I would rather
eat Quavers that are six week’s stale,
blow dry the hair of Gareth Bale,
listen to the songs of Jimmy Nail,
than read one page of the Daily Mail.

If I were bored
in a waiting room in Perivale,
on a twelve hour trip on British rail
or a world circumnavigational sail,
I would not read the Daily Mail.

I would happily read
the complete works of Peter Mayle,
the autobiography of Dan Quayle,
selected scripts from Emmerdale,
but I couldn’t ever read the Daily Mail.

Far better to
stand outside in a storm of hail,
be blown out to sea in a powerful gale
then swallowed by a humpback whale
than have to read the Daily Mail.

Even if
I were blind
and it was the only thing
in Braille,
I still would not read
the Daily Mail.

sharon103 Sun 10-Jul-22 23:24:55

All politicians are liars. The difference is that Boris got caught out. Not surprising since the media have been on his back since day one.
Dominic Cummings who broke the rules had the newspapers calling him a liar and everything under the sun yet believe every accusation he's said about the P.M since.
A case of sour grapes and revenge.
People seem to forget we were the first in the world to have the covid vaccine. Something we wouldn't have had if were still in the European Union.
He worked bloody hard to achieve that as did many many others.
As always, people like to pick out the faults rather than the achievements.

Taralou Sun 10-Jul-22 23:39:30

Well said