Andrea Jenkins who gave middle finger gesture to electorate is our new Education minister.

We don't have any choice, we just get another unelected Prime Minister (unless you're a CONservative member of course

MissAdventure

Excuses, excuses.
I wouldn't have imagined her gesture has helped in any way with the death threats.

She really doesn't seem to have much common sense.

Yes, common sense comes into it.
There is never an excuse for rude comments or gestures from anyone.

Anyone daft enough to hand things on a plate to the Tories in a 'culture' war raises my concerns and I am a Starmer supporter.

Anniel

Well Majzie D as I read it in a reputable journal I will recheck my information. You

I checked it before I posted.

Well Majzie D as I read it in a reputable journal I will recheck my information. You

And then there is the rail strike involving a union who give eye watering sums of money to the Labour Party.

Do you make it up as you go along, anniel. The striking rail union isn't affiliated to the Labour party. Unaffiliated unions don't give money to the LP.
I understand that it has given donations to some Labour MPs. This is not 'donating to the Labour party.

I could indulge in a bit of whataboutery and mention even more 'eyewatering sums' donated to the tory party by businesses, but I assume that's perfectly OK in your book.

You might be right. But I do care.

Chewbacca

To be fair growstuff I agree with anniel regarding Starmer's confusion of what a woman is and his apparent lack of understanding basic biology and I'm most definitely not a Conservative voter. I'm now in a political wilderness and have no idea who I could vote for any more. I suspect I'm not alone in that though.

To be honest, I don't think many people care less what Starmer has said about women, especially the way it's been misinterpreted by the anti-woke culture warriors.

To be fair growstuff I agree with anniel regarding Starmer's confusion of what a woman is and his apparent lack of understanding basic biology and I'm most definitely not a Conservative voter. I'm now in a political wilderness and have no idea who I could vote for any more. I suspect I'm not alone in that though.

Wow! I would never have guessed that you vote Conservative Annie

Well I cannot wait for the next Labour government. I intend to enjoy every minute of it.

The Trans matter will come up and Sir Keir May find he has to recognise the biological differences between men and women. Then there is the problem of free speech and which pronouns are acceptable. I could go on and on. How convenient was it for the Durham Crime Commissioners to be at the working dinner in Durham so the Police acted so differently from the Met. And then there is the rail strike involving a union who give eye watering sums of money to the Labour Party. So will Labour cancel the green agenda and be able to solve the economy crisis? Neither party has tried to do anything about waste in the NHS. France and Germany run reasonable health services and having had double pneumonia plus a heart attack on my 80th birthday in Australia the care given in a small provincial city was exemplary and due to an agreement between Australia and UK for treatment of patients of pensionable age, my bill was less than $40 and the main cost was the ambulance.

Our NHS struggles however much money we give it. But we lack schools, housing and other necessities and governments of both major parties never seem to get to grips
My last upset is for the teacher still in hiding for daring to show an image of Allah. We all know that this is the seat where poor Jo Cox was murdered by some rightist fanatic but even so that teacher has been unable to live normally.

I presume that Jo’s sister, the current MP has been unable to right tnis wrong out of fear. I believe everyone has the right to practice their own religious faith, but there are some influential Muslims who do not accept that we do not have that right and the latest furore over a film accentuates that view.

Maybe those on the left here ( who seem to be the majority) need to realise that some of us are Conservatives. Many regret that the current government has made a Horlicks in dealing with COVID, Brexit and the consequences of the war in Ukraine. However, there is no magic solution and I do not think that Labour is equipped to do a very good job eithet.





Met. And what

Would that Tories all disappeared and curriculums and teaching methods were in the hands of the experts the professional teachers.

Excuses, excuses.
I wouldn't have imagined her gesture has helped in any way with the death threats.

She really doesn't seem to have much common sense.

Heather Wheeler has just said in parliament that it was a result of her having many death threats as an MP. Are there any MP’s ( unfortunately) that haven’t had death threats? I remember seeing a picture of all the locks Jess Philips has on her front door to keep her safe and from memory Yvette Cooper said her children feared for her safety. Ditto Anna Soubry who also said she always stood far back on a station platform for fear if someone pushing her onto the track. When Anna was verbally abused outside parliament she didn’t respond in that way. I seem to remember Steve Bray defending her because the people abusing her were quite physical, too, because she asked him not to get involved for his own safety.

Saetana

She wasn't flipping the bird to "the electorate" she was aiming it at a crowd shouting foul abuse at her - something she experiences on a regular basis both in person and on social media. She has had several death threats, two of them recent and under police investigation. Pretty sure she just reached the end of her tether - she admits she shouldn't have done it but just snapped. Its hardly crime of the century after all. Just another excuse for the left to have a pop at her - politicians have done far worse when provoked, remember Gordon Brown calling that woman a bigot? Two Jags Prescott actually hit someone!

She did it on the way in and on the way out, so she didn't just "snap".

MawtheMerrier

A warning to Education ministers and those who aspire thereto.

Oh, Maw, the final comment and cutting suggestion really made me chuckle: " bathos rarely works. Perhaps wait until your writing skills are better developed ".

(Admittedly, I did have to look up the meaning of bathos, so I learned something from it, too.)

She wasn't flipping the bird to "the electorate" she was aiming it at a crowd shouting foul abuse at her - something she experiences on a regular basis both in person and on social media. She has had several death threats, two of them recent and under police investigation. Pretty sure she just reached the end of her tether - she admits she shouldn't have done it but just snapped. Its hardly crime of the century after all. Just another excuse for the left to have a pop at her - politicians have done far worse when provoked, remember Gordon Brown calling that woman a bigot? Two Jags Prescott actually hit someone!

Perhaps she was trying to count the reporters and couldn’t get past 1! What an absolute disgrace she is , not seen a better reason for a General Election in .... oh... minutes!

The fact that she was appointed after such a thing beggars belief. Sack her, disgraceful, how can the job be too much after three days. If I was a teacher I would want her out.

Riverwalk

Mamie

Plus Peter Bone as Deputy Leader of the House FGS. They really are scraping the barrel or more likely Boris Johnson is 'aving a larf.

I heard on the news last night that the post has been unfilled since 2019, seems strange to appoint someone to such a post just before summer recess.

I wonder if all these newbies will get a taxpayers end of term pay-off? Blojo doing favours for friends no doubt.

Why ex ministers get resettlement payments is hard to understand.

Can't confirm that this is correct but I saw this the other day. Sadly Mr B is my MP and there's a lot of discontent in the area.
'When his services are dispensed with he shall be entitled to a severance pay equivalent to 3 months of his ministerial pay.'
Not a bad reward for being a brown nose.

Yes in Romania and Transylvania. Hardly the same as 11.7 on a wet Friday afternoon. I can't wait for his pearls of wisdom.

Paperback writer its at the top of the page.

MaggsMcG

I don't understand why everything is being blamed on Brexit and in turn blamed on the Government. The lies and the parties yes but not Brexit. The country voted to leave the people voted to leave not the Government. They may well have cocked up the Terms but it was not their idea to leave. I'm no Boris supporter after the lies and the parties, but it's no point blaming the Government for they just didcwhat the people voted for. The fact that those people were wrong is their fault not the Government.

The people voted for the lies that Johnson told them about how much better the country would be if it left the EU. And the government mainly consists of people who didn’t want to oppose Johnson. Those with morals left ( or were pushed).

MaggsMcG

I don't understand why everything is being blamed on Brexit and in turn blamed on the Government. The lies and the parties yes but not Brexit. The country voted to leave the people voted to leave not the Government. They may well have cocked up the Terms but it was not their idea to leave. I'm no Boris supporter after the lies and the parties, but it's no point blaming the Government for they just didcwhat the people voted for. The fact that those people were wrong is their fault not the Government.

The Government told the people a pack of lies before the Brexit vote... where is all the money we would supposedly save that would go into the NHS? Better of? No! Lots more global trade? No! We are now at the bottom of the prosperity league in Europe and a laughing stock.
So, yes, the Government is responsible.
The people who voted for Brexit were hoodwinked and deceived. They are not responsible. The myth of a renewed 'Rule Britannia' has cost them, and the rest of us, a lot!

I don't know if anyone's seen it (and I can't find it to copy here) but someone has taken her apology note and corrected every grammatical error, of which there are many. Great stuff!