Was Boris Johnson bullied into resigning?

When DH and I were first together, we had polar opposite political views. He was very to the right, I was very to the left.

We had some "interesting and lively" debates lol ?

But, happy days, we are both more centrist now, and both loathe Johnson, so peace reigns. ?

I totally agree with you Smileless.

Mind you so far then the candidates want to improve things like defence, NHS, education, pensions etc and cut taxes. I wonder why nobody's tried that before.
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His sister has been emotionally defending him on her radio slot, and is very sad as Boris wanted to be King of the World, from the age of 2.?


Oh well, we better keep him then so as not to disappoint the wee soul.

Psst, Sis, he's not 2 anymore.

I don't know. Now he's saying that he won't endorse anybody for the post of PM as he doesn't want to spoil their chances. That seems quite humble to me.

Me too Cats.

CatsCatsCats

I don't know. Now he's saying that he won't endorse anybody for the post of PM as he doesn't want to spoil their chances. That seems quite humble to me.

Oh, jeez. The arch liar lies again and you all believe him.

No 10 are briefing like fury against Sunak. And, no doubt the others...

CatsCatsCats

I don't know. Now he's saying that he won't endorse anybody for the post of PM as he doesn't want to spoil their chances. That seems quite humble to me.

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He has spent all of his adult life lying.

Do you honestly think that statement is true!

I've no idea whether it's true as I happen to believe that all politicians lie or, at the very least, go back on their word.

But I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt. It did sound plausible, and he looked pretty weary when he was saying it.

An endorsement from Boris would undoubtedly spoil anyone's chances so that's not a lie anyway.

I suppose you could say that he was hustled out of the door, but that is very different from bullying. And you could also say that the hustling happened because he had overstepped the mark and refused to recognise it.

I think it silly and rather pointless to say that all politicians, lie, or are stupid or self serving. Most politicians in all parties are honest and hard working.

What these candidates are promising is pie in the sky - undeliverable - as was Johnsons pledges about levelling up and having a high wage economy, controlling our borders etc etc All just soundbites with no plan.

That seems quite humble to me.


Humble indeed

He may have recognised reality, for a change, though.

Grany

Peter Oborne Absolutely DESTROYS Boris Johnson & Everything That Made Him Possible

m.youtube.com/watch?v=lWsa_sqdYzM

Thanks for this linkGrany

Peter Oborne tells the truth that the Tory party won't want you to hear.

Whoever becomes prime minister we will get more of the same. Most of them have been complicit in the lies and lied for him.
We need a new party

Well for a bullied man he’s still here
Totally agree AGAA4 it will all be more of the sane with this crew needs a complete and utter change
Humble and Johnson do not go in the same breathe cats the man wouldn’t even be able to spell the word ‘humble’

Ah poor Didums! NOT. He is and continues to be very much a bully. The cabinet members who are standing to be PM have been complicit in all his lies. They should be banned from standing and also banned from any future cabinet positions. What an utter disgraceful situation.

The witch hunt started for Boris the moment he entered No 10 and has been relentless ever since. Boris has done some excellent things and certainly some foolish ones especially when defending undeserving colleagues particularly the odious Cummings. As for Mrs Mays integrity?! 'Brexit means Brexit '? No it didn't, 'No deal's better than a bad deal' No it wasn't, together with endless calender dates when we would leave regardless of any or no deal! No we weren't, and unsurprisingly didn't! Dates came and went and the EU laughed and mocked. She was I think the most infuriating PM of all time with her constant vacillation, so please not her even for a few weeks! Far better not to discuss politics with friends and family. Politicians are simply not worth falling out over especially with family and close friends. If we disagree, we just agree to differ, and leave it at that. Let's face it we can't alter anything so why fall out?

Good replies - thanks.
But what I meant to ask was - can a person who has been in this world for many years, has strong moral standards, tries to do the right thing, .....not recognise BJ's complete disregard of morality as a PM.
I'm too oldfashioned.

Yes I think the relentless nagging and hounding by Keir Starmer, who is not in the least interested in what is good for this country, got rid of Johnson. Boris treated his wives badly and lied to them, they knew the score though when they started an affair with a married man as did Carrie, so they are all as bad, just feel sorry for the children not the wives. the one thing he is though is loyal to this country and works in its best interests. I don’t think Keir does, it was not in the countries best interest for Boris to go, but hey ho that was the only way to get him out so Keir never let up. I think his beer gate every bit as bad as Party gate. I could never respect Keir, he has won the battle but not the war. So let him enjoy his victory with that smug grin while it lasts, they all tell tge truth until they are found out, politics is a dirty business.

Talking amongst friends I’m very surprised at the amount of support for Boris in relation to the way he was ditched.
Some of them are life long Labour voters.

eazybee

Yes I do think he was bullied, and no I do not think he is a bully. Flawed yes, but a fighter and courageous.
One of his faults was being too loyal, witness Dominic Cummings, Owen Paterson and others; bad judgements that led to his downfall.
Margaret Thatcher was pressured, and resigned with grace; we got John Major, who paved the way for T.Blair, who isn't dead yet.

Not loyalty. They all know where the bodies are buried. No doubt over the next few months mire misdeeds will cone to light.

CatsCatsCats

I've no idea whether it's true as I happen to believe that all politicians lie or, at the very least, go back on their word.

But I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt. It did sound plausible, and he looked pretty weary when he was saying it.

The number of his lies is legion. If you chose to luck it won't take you very long to find evidence. The evidence has been mentioned on GN several times.

I agree with some posters that it’s best not to discuss politics with friends. And that includes discussing BJ.

Allsorts

Yes I think the relentless nagging and hounding by Keir Starmer, who is not in the least interested in what is good for this country, got rid of Johnson. Boris treated his wives badly and lied to them, they knew the score though when they started an affair with a married man as did Carrie, so they are all as bad, just feel sorry for the children not the wives. the one thing he is though is loyal to this country and works in its best interests. I don’t think Keir does, it was not in the countries best interest for Boris to go, but hey ho that was the only way to get him out so Keir never let up. I think his beer gate every bit as bad as Party gate. I could never respect Keir, he has won the battle but not the war. So let him enjoy his victory with that smug grin while it lasts, they all tell tge truth until they are found out, politics is a dirty business.

I'm sorry but I think that you must live in another universe.

So Starmers curry and beer with his colleagues is the same as the goings on in Downing Street, with or without the PM? I doubt that Starmer had suitcases full of booze arriving at the venue and I doubt even more that empty bottles, other rubbish, vomit etc were left for the cleaners to clear up.

Seeing the way they discuss things and heckle each other, it's kind of all a bit playground really.