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Was Boris Johnson bullied into resigning?

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Fennel Mon 11-Jul-22 11:56:38

I was chatting with a friend at the weekend and she suddenly said - "They were horrible to him".
Suddenly, we hadn't been discussing the subject.
I was so puzzled, said I didn't want to talk about it. We could have fallen out.
Explains why he still has so much support in the country.

Ilovecheese Mon 11-Jul-22 11:59:31

Maybe it was bullying but how else could they have done it, he was not one to be reasoned with.
Some of the newspapers are stirring up sympathy for him, by the look of their front pages.

M0nica Mon 11-Jul-22 12:53:46

Whenever a Prime Minister goes people usually have to be horrible to them first. look what they did to Mrs Thatcher, Brown, Blair, Callaghan.

Bridgeit Mon 11-Jul-22 13:00:06

Perhaps ‘Encouraged’ or ‘Strongly encouraged ‘ would be kinder terms to use.

MaizieD Mon 11-Jul-22 13:17:25

The idea of Johnson being bullied into anything is just hilarious! He went because he knew very well that a new 1922 Committee would instantly change the rules on the interval between no confidence votes and he would inevitably lose the leadership of the tory party.

Anyone with the slightest shred of integrity would have gone after partygate, if not sooner.

It is sweet of people to be concerned about his 'feelings', but incredibly naive of them. He doesn't give a monkey's about anyone but himself, and, as his 'resignation' speech demonstrated, he doesn't have even a sliver of humility or any consciousness of wrong doing.

Katie59 Mon 11-Jul-22 13:20:00

Politians bully each other all the time, in fact they have special bullies - The Whips to put pressure on back benchers to follow the government line, a free vote is uncommon where MPs can vote according to their conscience.
All parties do it

Chewbacca Mon 11-Jul-22 13:24:21

But BJ is himself a bully and has supported members of his cabinet to be bullies too; his whole reason d'etre is lying and bullying. Sometimes, it does bullies good to get a taste of their medicine.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 11-Jul-22 13:27:20

Well if he was bullied, which I very much doubt, at least he has had a taste of his own medicine.

Purplepixie Mon 11-Jul-22 13:34:06

Boris has been the bully for years.

eazybee Mon 11-Jul-22 13:42:00

Yes I do think he was bullied, and no I do not think he is a bully. Flawed yes, but a fighter and courageous.
One of his faults was being too loyal, witness Dominic Cummings, Owen Paterson and others; bad judgements that led to his downfall.
Margaret Thatcher was pressured, and resigned with grace; we got John Major, who paved the way for T.Blair, who isn't dead yet.

CoolCoco Mon 11-Jul-22 13:43:54

He wouldn't know loyalty if it hit him in the face.

nanna8 Mon 11-Jul-22 13:47:14

I doubt that anyone with as much self confidence as he has could ever be bullied. He thinks he’s a star, God’s gift to the female race and God’s gift to your country. He should leave immediately and let that lovely lady Theresa May return as a caretaker until they can find a decent alternative.

Ramblingrose22 Mon 11-Jul-22 13:54:07

Well put nanna8.

Good riddance to him.

That defiant resignation speech blaming everyone but himself for his lies and failures of judgment was exactly what was to be expected from such an arrogant person.

Grany Mon 11-Jul-22 13:55:28

Peter Oborne Absolutely DESTROYS Boris Johnson & Everything That Made Him Possible

m.youtube.com/watch?v=lWsa_sqdYzM

sharon103 Mon 11-Jul-22 13:58:00

eazybee

Yes I do think he was bullied, and no I do not think he is a bully. Flawed yes, but a fighter and courageous.
One of his faults was being too loyal, witness Dominic Cummings, Owen Paterson and others; bad judgements that led to his downfall.
Margaret Thatcher was pressured, and resigned with grace; we got John Major, who paved the way for T.Blair, who isn't dead yet.

Well said.

Urmstongran Mon 11-Jul-22 14:07:26

I don’t think he was bullied. But I do think he’s been the victim of a witch-hunt and once divisions became cracks, there as no chance for him. All the chancers joined the bandwagon once they saw opportunity. Poor Boris. I think he’s been treated very shabbily.

Oldnproud Mon 11-Jul-22 14:10:50

I do not think for one minute that Boris was bullied, or would ever allow himself to be bullied.

He was simply given no choice. That's not the same thing at all.
Millions of petulant children every day are made by to things that they do not want to do, but that are essential for either their own or other people's well-being. That's what happened to Boris - the grown-ups around him took charge. It's not bullying.

Casdon Mon 11-Jul-22 14:12:34

As with Macbeth, he is the master of his own downfall. I hope Teresa May had a glass of champagne and a wry smile.

westendgirl Mon 11-Jul-22 14:15:54

Actually he's still there !

Blinko Mon 11-Jul-22 14:16:17

I find it incredible that even now, people cannot see what the man is like. I have all but fallen out with someone who has been a friend for years over this.

She apparently thinks ‘no one but Boris’ and I think ‘anyone but Boris’. We’re both of the same stripe politically, ie. Remainders and normally Labour voters.

Such a divisive influence.

Blinko Mon 11-Jul-22 14:17:11

As for integrity, Theresa May had it. This man doesn’t.

DiamondLily Mon 11-Jul-22 14:19:02

You can't bully a lying bully. He was the author of his own misfortune.

His sister has been emotionally defending him on her radio slot, and is very sad as Boris wanted to be King of the World, from the age of 2.?.

You'd need a heart of stone not to laugh...?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11001887/Rachel-Johnson-defends-brother-Boris-emotional-reaction-resignation.html

Urmstongran Mon 11-Jul-22 14:22:39

My walk this morning was with a dear friend who is quite definitely a Labour supporter, hates the Tories with a passion and voted Remain. We respect one another’s political views and just avoid talking about them. There’s so much else friends can chat about whilst enjoying one another’s company I find.
?

Aveline Mon 11-Jul-22 14:23:40

He needed to be got rid of. All PMs fail eventually. Politics is no place for sissies.

Smileless2012 Mon 11-Jul-22 14:27:55

Politics is often a subject best avoided with family and friends if their's differs to your own Urmstongran.