Penny Mordaunt's credibility is destroyed by her lies

Dickens

I think if I hear one more hopeful - or any other politician talk about "delivering", I shall go out in the garden and scream.

Yes, we have the vaccine rollout - which Johnson never fails to crow about. But consider this...

"According to an in-depth study by Samuel Cross of Imperial College London and the team, almost 100 percent of the £228m funding for the ChAdOx vaccine research and development from 2002 to October 2020 came from the public: nearly a quarter from charitable trusts like Wellcome and another quarter from the British taxpayer. We should also thank the Europeans, because, contrary to the Brexit rhetoric, one-third of the funding came from the European Commission.

"UK Research and Innovation (UKRI) was set up by PM Theresa May in 2018 as “a non-departmental public body sponsored by the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS).” Another is the National Institute for Health Research (NIHR), part-funded by Public Health England: an agency that the Tories wanted to dismantle during the pandemic.

(source: The London Economic)

... so what else has been "delivered" - apart from Brexit which Johnson thinks he got "done" and the only issues left to iron out are the evil EU protecting its own interests and demanding we stick to the deal he signed.

The only other thing that's being "delivered" is huge energy bills which the government has the power and ability to navigate, but so far, hasn't.

And those who are waiting for the 'levelling up' are still waiting...

Excellent post

Tom T is bland, reminds me of John Major, mentions his military experience in the answer to every question on the husting today. Boring man with no vision

I think if I hear one more hopeful - or any other politician talk about "delivering", I shall go out in the garden and scream.

Yes, we have the vaccine rollout - which Johnson never fails to crow about. But consider this...

"According to an in-depth study by Samuel Cross of Imperial College London and the team, almost 100 percent of the £228m funding for the ChAdOx vaccine research and development from 2002 to October 2020 came from the public: nearly a quarter from charitable trusts like Wellcome and another quarter from the British taxpayer. We should also thank the Europeans, because, contrary to the Brexit rhetoric, one-third of the funding came from the European Commission.

"UK Research and Innovation (UKRI) was set up by PM Theresa May in 2018 as “a non-departmental public body sponsored by the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS).” Another is the National Institute for Health Research (NIHR), part-funded by Public Health England: an agency that the Tories wanted to dismantle during the pandemic.

(source: The London Economic)

... so what else has been "delivered" - apart from Brexit which Johnson thinks he got "done" and the only issues left to iron out are the evil EU protecting its own interests and demanding we stick to the deal he signed.

The only other thing that's being "delivered" is huge energy bills which the government has the power and ability to navigate, but so far, hasn't.

And those who are waiting for the 'levelling up' are still waiting...

I only learnt today that Mourdant did not back Johnson in his leadership campaign, but backed Hunt. I Also discovered that Frost, who has been running Mourdant down, was never an elected MP but was parachuted into the Lords by BJ and made some kind of Brexit minister. Basically, the whole lot of them are a complete shower who don’t really care about the country anyway.

Anniebach

It will be Truss and Mordaunt, a hope for another Thatcher

that would be very good for womenkind, shows that we woman will not be kept down and it may indeed be possible

Lying rules out every member of the party!

It will be Truss and Mordaunt, a hope for another Thatcher

Suspect Tom T is becoming an also ran as the other candidates probably fear they wouldn’t have free reign to lie; skive, and look only after their own interests under his watch

And if Sunak plans to govern like Thatcher then clearly he did not learn the lessons of her regime. How is it still possible that her assertion that national economies were like a household budget has not been knocked on the head. How can he not have worked out the misery that she caused? We don't want that all over again.

Boris - a dishonest liar with no integrity - everyone knew this but he got in.
Mordaunt - a dishonest liar - people know this - but some are still supporting her.
Truss - oh please no, no, no. She is a total lightweight who falls back on platitudes: "Deliver, deliver, deliver!" - yes, but deliver what? Please don't let us finish up with her for Prime Minister.

Tom T for me as well, but we all know he won’t win. The thought of any of the others fills me with despair.

She's a politician. No further excuse needed.

Sunaks tasteless and patronising video says it all. They are all so dodgy and awful except Tom T. and he is fast becoming an 'also ran'.

Grantanow

Frost's opinions are worthless in my view because he concluded a deeply useless Brexit agreement. Most Tory grassrooters are pro Brexit so the candidates play that line whatever they may privately think so they stand a chance if they are in the last two. We have an awful clutch of candidates compared with Tory PMs of yesteryear (excepting Johnson and Eden).

When did Frost appoint himself as the Tory Party sage anyway?

Your last sentence sums it up for me Dickens and why I'd rather hopefuls talk about the economy (even if I think they don't have much of a clue) than manufactured "anti-woke" culture wars.

I am really liking Liz Truss on the live hustings today, was not sure before but she is coming across very well and I like her views

growstuff

Good! Better than waffling on about immigrants or culture wars! The economy and cost of living is almost certainly what "normal" people are concerned about at the moment.

To tackle the cost-of-living crisis in any meaningful way to the millions who are struggling might involve some radical thinking which would be alien to free-market ideology.

Looking at the current 'mood' of the country with various sections in the humour for strikes and not willing to put up with the way things are, I think the government know they will have to do 'something'. But they also all seem hell-bent on cutting public spending. That and the much vaunted tax cuts which will of course benefit high-income earners most. So it will be interesting to see what they come up with. Sunak's promised us he's going to govern like Thatcher - not quite sure what Mordaunt has in mind.

Personally, I don't think the 'man in the street' is going to see anything different from this party - the only difference will be that whoever becomes PM will be careful to work by the rules, and thoughtfully peruse any future party invitations.

And then, of course, there's the ERG conducting the orchestra from the pit...

Casdon

The biggest liar has to be Liz Truss. She’s not even good at it.

I just can't take Liz Truss' bid to be PM seriously. She's such a lightweight, gets confused when she's speaking and doesn't seem to have much of a grip on any subject.

Frost's opinions are worthless in my view because he concluded a deeply useless Brexit agreement. Most Tory grassrooters are pro Brexit so the candidates play that line whatever they may privately think so they stand a chance if they are in the last two. We have an awful clutch of candidates compared with Tory PMs of yesteryear (excepting Johnson and Eden).

As usual the contest is getting dirty with contenders, their supporters and self interested newspapers dishing the dirt on each other. Unedifying and bodes badly for the new government

None of that lot is credible!

Lord Frost isn't exactly in a position to comment on her!

katy1950

Listening to lord Frost who was her boss at one point has changed my mind about her she sounds shallow

X2 sides to every story..

Listening to lord Frost who was her boss at one point has changed my mind about her she sounds shallow

Which politician started the lie culture. I first took notice when Harold Wilson was PM. Then I noticed Denis Healey. The list goes on to Tony Bliar and Gordon Brown. It must be in a job description to be a politico. But then, these puppets have someone pulling the strings anyway. And the rich just keep getting richer.