Penny Mordaunt's credibility is destroyed by her lies

If only we had a decent Opposition instead of the woke joke that is the Labour Party these days whose vitriol towards the ruling party takes the place of constructive debate and actual policies!

The Labour Party policies are available for all to read on their website. Dismissing the range of policies as 'woke joke' is not a particularly well thought out argument.

I can't imagine how difficult it is to be in opposition to this squirming, lying, cheating, corrupt, winking, amoral, self serving, hand-in-glove with the media, inept group of people that make up the front bench of the Tory party.

Small state=
Fewer health professionals
Fewer education support workers as well as teachers (as suggested by one of the candidates)
Fewer and less well trained social workers
Ditto police officers, firemen and women, etc.
Dirtier rivers.
Less health and safety regs
Less rights for working people.
Less courts so more delays in the justice system.

I think they all lied some also had fines for the party when I was in hospital I couldn't have any visitors people forget what they did at the start of lockdown

She's got them running scared,

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Dreadful situation with none of the candidates an ideal choice for PM. It seems from many interviews that I have heard that MPs are more interested in which person can win the next GE for the Tories than who would be the best Leader Of This Country! Party politics again with the electorate left out of all considerations! And none of the overpaid and underwhelming interviewers had the guts to challenge them on most of the flummery they spoke. If only we had a decent Opposition instead of the woke joke that is the Labour Party these days whose vitriol towards the ruling party takes the place of constructive debate and actual policies!

Interesting how much briefing is going on against Penny M. I like that she's a refreshing change from Boris's lot, is articulate and has some practical experience.

Body readings woman on tv other night said same thing about rishi too that his body language was saying he was also lying after his speech. Guess we will just have to watch and wait and hope that the ppl who can choose pick someone who wants to help us and not themselves

God protect us from Liz Truss !

Don't care. I still think Penny is the best candidate. I am making my own mind up, and no amount of spiteful media spin will change my choice. Agree with Karma Lady, any of the women would be better than that back stabbing ex chancellor!

seems like you can't be in this government if you have ethics. it's truly toxic

I cannot stand Liz Truss - she went to my school and has slagged it off ever since!

I heard Liz Truss talking about reversing the NI and Corporate tax yesterday. What she didn't say is how we tackle the Social Care crisis. She wouldn't get my vote if I had one. I can't say I warm to any of them although from a selfish point of view, Penny Mordaunt may do a lot for Portsmouth which might help that area.

MayBee70

What does small state Conservative mean? Does it mean just letting people fend for themselves?

Yes. It's meritocracy on steroids and the devil take the hindmost. Turn the clock back at least 500 years.

I agree 100%, it doesn’t make it right but to single her out isn’t right when others were being encouraged to make this point by Cummings.

Liz Truss wasn't making it , though. She campaigned for Remain

MayBee70

Jane43

The lie about Turkey joining the EU originated from Cummings, he encouraged MPs to repeat the mantra ‘NHS and Turkey’. I’m sure she wasn’t the only one to follow his advice.

That doesn’t make it ok though….and they were all happy to continue to defend Johnson’s lies for 3 years. I’m pretty sure they would have known about the goings on at No 10 as well.

I agree 100%, it doesn’t make it right but to single her out isn’t right when others were being encouraged to make this point by Cummings. I don’t know if she was more vociferous than others but she certainly wasn’t the only one saying this and the idea didn’t originate from her. I’m not a supporter of her by the way, I’m not even a Tory voter but I do believe in fair play.

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The Times runs hatchet piece on Penny Mordaunt without mentioning the facts that her main rival, Rishi Sunak, was best man at the author's wedding, godfather to the author's kids and was old public school friend of the author.

What does small state Conservative mean? Does it mean just letting people fend for themselves?

MaizieD

growstuff

maddyone

Mordaunt is a lightweight from what I’ve read about her.

How does this compare with what you've read about the other hopefuls?

It does seem that somebody is briefing against Mordaunt.

Let's face it, growstuff. They're all bl**dy lightweights, aren't they?

Yep!

growstuff

maddyone

Mordaunt is a lightweight from what I’ve read about her.

How does this compare with what you've read about the other hopefuls?

It does seem that somebody is briefing against Mordaunt.

Let's face it, growstuff. They're all bl**dy lightweights, aren't they?

I really can't warm to Liz Truss, I didn't like her taking credit and making a great issue about securing the trade deals when it only involved changing over from EU trade deal to UK one with minimal negotiation. I thought Rishi was dreadful on Radio 4 yesterday morning, he did the Boris trick of not answering questions and changing the subject to all the great things the British People will be getting if he becomes leader.He also sounds incredibly upper class when he speaks for long - I hadn't noticed that before and that old clip of him saying he had no working class friends has turned up. Tom and Kemi will be out of the race soon. All things considered I think Penny is the least objectionable of the lot.
I'm really concerned all they want to talk about is tax cuts and Brexit, which is not even an issue now.

MayBee70

Now being interviewed by Beth Rigby. Only wants to talk about the economy.

Good! Better than waffling on about immigrants or culture wars! The economy and cost of living is almost certainly what "normal" people are concerned about at the moment.

The question to ask about Mordaunt is, 'Can she stand up to the ERG'?

Members might favour her for being a 'clean sheet', but they seem oblivious to who is pulling their PLP'Ss strings.

maddyone

Mordaunt is a lightweight from what I’ve read about her.

How does this compare with what you've read about the other hopefuls?

It does seem that somebody is briefing against Mordaunt.