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Penny Mordaunt's credibility is destroyed by her lies

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NotSpaghetti Thu 14-Jul-22 09:07:55

Wasn't she the one that made a speech for a bet trying to say "cock" multiple times?
It was years ago...

MaizieD Thu 14-Jul-22 09:05:02

Don't worry, Ug. Frost is so lacking in judgement that no-one with half a brain cell is going to take any notice of what he says.

I expect the ERG would be delighted with a lightweight and easily manipulated PM.

Maudi Thu 14-Jul-22 09:03:17

09:00Urmstongran

? Liz Truss for PM then, sorry Penny

Maudi Thu 14-Jul-22 09:01:08

Well if the Guardian don't like Penny Mordaunt PM4PM she's gone up in my estimation.

Urmstongran Thu 14-Jul-22 09:00:20

Oh heck .... this - just now from the Telegraph:

“Lord David Frost, the former Brexit chief negotiator, has told Talk TV he would have "grave reservations" about Penny Mordaunt becoming Prime Minister.

Citing his time working alongside her during the Brexit negotiations, when Mordaunt served as his junior, Lord Frost said she "wasn't fully accountable or always visible".

"To be honest, I'm quite surprised she is where she is in this race. She was my deputy - notionally more than really - in the Brexit talks last year," he said.

"I'm sorry to say this, she did not master the necessary detail in the negotiations last year. She wouldn't always deliver tough messages to the European Union when that was necessary and I'm afraid she wasn't fully accountable or always visible. Sometimes I didn't even know where she was."

"I'm afraid this became such a problem that after 6 months I had to ask the PM to move her on and find somebody else to support me."

"From the basis of what I saw, I would have grave reservations."

yggdrasil Thu 14-Jul-22 08:55:04

A few politicians have the picking of the 2 remaining candidates. A small proportion of the general public, those who have paid to join the tory party, then have the right to vote between those 2. And the majority of the country have to go along with it.
They didn't do to well with the choice of liar Johnson, why does anyone think the country will be any better off by September angry

varian Thu 14-Jul-22 08:46:46

Politicians do sometimes say things that are untrue. If they believe what they are saying is true and have no evidence to the contrary, they are not technically lying.

However if they are then told that there is incontrovertible evidence that what they stated is untrue, an honest politician will retract and apologise for getting it wrong.

Penny Mordaunt has been told many times that it is a fact that the UK was, as an EU member, able to veto the admission of Turkey or any other country and therefore her scaremongering statement that "Turkey will join and there is nothing we could do to stop it" is a lie. Yet she keeps repeating this lie.

It seems to me that the reason that she will not withdraw this lie and tell the truth is that it was one of the most important lies which swayed some people to vote Leave.

The whole Brexit project is based on lies but there were two lies that were most effective.

When Dominic Cummings trained the army of call centre workers the Leavers employed to stir up fear, he kept repeating " £350 million and Turkey" , "£350 million and Turkey", "£350 million and Turkey"

"£350 million" was Boris HJohnson's big lie.

"Turkey" was PennyMordaunt's big lie.

25Avalon Thu 14-Jul-22 08:44:00

There are lies, damned lies, and politicians to paraphrase Disraeli’s famous words.

honeyrose Thu 14-Jul-22 08:40:42

Are there ANY truthful politicians out there?

vegansrock Thu 14-Jul-22 06:51:57

Anyone who thinks “4” is a word goes down in my opinion.

NotSpaghetti Thu 14-Jul-22 02:21:12

I hear her launch went well:

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/13/penny-mordaunt-leadership-launch-john-crace-politics-sketch

MayBee70 Wed 13-Jul-22 23:57:39

She’s named after a battleship that was torpedoed by a German submarine which sunk without trace with great loss of life.

growstuff Wed 13-Jul-22 23:48:34

OK! So that's four out of six are liars! It's not looking too hopeful - at least none of them could be such liars as Johnson.

MayBee70 Wed 13-Jul-22 23:25:04

She makes a point about the fact she was named after a battleship but fails to mention that it was torpedoed by a German submarine and sank with great loss of life. I hope her ambition to be PM sinks without trace, too.

Casdon Wed 13-Jul-22 22:54:38

The biggest liar has to be Liz Truss. She’s not even good at it.

Galaxy Wed 13-Jul-22 22:53:42

Yep she lies quite a lot.

Urmstongran Wed 13-Jul-22 22:51:38

Oh dear. Perhaps all this is unravelling now for her?
A messy business.

growstuff Wed 13-Jul-22 22:46:59

Lying rules out Braverman and Badenoch too.

varian Wed 13-Jul-22 21:46:21

In a letter to The Guardian, former UK Ambasssador to Turkey calls out Penny Mordaunt for her persistent lies about Turkey joining the EU.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/12/penny-mordaunts-credibility-was-destroyed-by-her-claims-about-turkey