Is Liz Truss channelling her inner Margaret Thatcher?

John Crace on yesterday's debate

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/15/the-tory-leadership-debate-desperate-as-a-sales-pitch-worse-as-entertainment

LT constantly telling us that she'd been on missions and delivered - but no mention of any actual results. She should have seen a stylist to learn how to tie a pussycat bow.

In the 80s I worked in a large City office. Nearly all the women wore pussy cat bows and neat suits a la Thatcher. How I longed to see the back of them.

All I took from that debate was “what have we done to deserve such a sad little lot of would-be PMs?”

Is so interesting how we all see the same thing and reach different conclusions.

Kemi eye roller and kept checking her notes, she should be able to think on her feet.
Tom we do know he's ex Army, is another Rory Stewart, he won't go much further.
It's down to Rushi, Penny and Liz.

Next week all Conservative members get a chance to see the hustings of each one. This will be the decider who get the job, not these TV debates.

Callistemon21

MayBee70

Mine

I thought Tom Turgundhat facial expressions, mannerisms and the slow way he spoke put me in mind of a younger Tony Blair...Any thoughts on this????

I think he’s like a character from a Jane Austen novel.

Mr Darcy?

Yes. Or Dobbin from Vanity Fair. I do think he’s in politics as an act of public duty. Given that, as a party, I loathe them, there are several that I quite like eg Peter Bottomley. Tugendhat is very much like the Conservatives I campaigned with for a peoples vote. I just wish that, like one of those people, he’d jump ship to the LibDems. His wife’s family are very political, too. I think he is the sort of person that many people think they’re voting for when they vote Tory whereas, in fact ( imo) most of them have morphed from UKIP these days.

It’s like being asked to choose between the members of Westlife when you’re an Oasis fan.

Kemi Badenoch didn’t impress me at all. She seems to be over confident in her abilities and quick to attack Penny Mordant in a way that added nothing constructive to the debate

If Truss was Thatcher like then Sunak was definitely Blair like!
His delivery and hand gestures were reminiscent of a young Tony Blair.
Kemi Badenoch would get my vote, none of the others impressed me.

They seemed to have forgotten that they have been in power for the last decade. I thought that Tugendhat came across as credible. Liz Truss has obviously been studying Thatcher. Heaven help us.

should your statement rosie be copied over to one of the threads about the male/female divide and whether anyone has a right to decide for themselves how they feel and orient themselves?

To coin a phrase All the gear and no idea
What ever you think of Margaret Thatcher she probably had more balls than any PM since.

Whitewavemark2

So incredibly weird and creepy.

No pearl earrings though!

so, we have mr turgid-hat (thank you maw)
and ms trussed-up-like-thatcher (for my view there watch the "pork markets" episode of hignfy).

This might all seem trivial, but the result will make it hard to convince the world that bj really was an unrepresentative mistake. This is important stuff, from which we'll be reeling for many years to come!

Not carried so well though.

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So incredibly weird and creepy.

They keep telling us about the wonderful depth of talent in the Tory party. Then you look at this lot, who are presumably supposed to be the cream, and you despair.

MayBee70

Mine

I thought Tom Turgundhat facial expressions, mannerisms and the slow way he spoke put me in mind of a younger Tony Blair...Any thoughts on this????

I think he’s like a character from a Jane Austen novel.

Mr Darcy?

Mine

I thought Tom Turgundhat facial expressions, mannerisms and the slow way he spoke put me in mind of a younger Tony Blair...Any thoughts on this????

Poor Tom Tugendhat - you make him sound turgid !

What the hell is spell check doing to Tom?

Penny M did herself no favours, umms and errs and evading the questions came across as shallow. Truss was completely wooden - how many times can she say the word “deliver”?Sunak - smarmy, Tom - was he in the army? Kemi - she has to control the eye rolling - she would obviously cut public services - superfluous staff in schools anyone? Tughenhat is the only vaguely sincere one and he hasn’t a hope - he’s too nice for the current Tory - Ukip mob. No mention of Brexit, funny that.

Mine

I thought Tom Turgundhat facial expressions, mannerisms and the slow way he spoke put me in mind of a younger Tony Blair...Any thoughts on this????

I think he’s like a character from a Jane Austen novel.

LT didn’t look into the camera when giving her final speech

I thought Tom Turgundhat facial expressions, mannerisms and the slow way he spoke put me in mind of a younger Tony Blair...Any thoughts on this????

And all this for the benefit of just 100,000 voters

Penny makes me think of Cruella De Ville, I think she may watch the programme back and bitterly regret her sour expression, she has the warmth of a dead slug. I'm beginning to understand why they kept BJ going, this lot have the charisma of my local undertaker! I did love watching them squirm though, could we have four labour wannabees and Sir KS next week, it would be interesting to make a comparison. Oh and perhaps Ed Davey + 4 lib Dems the following week. My goodness, British politics is in a mess!