Starving in Africa

Maudi

17:06BlueBelle

Virtual signalling on Gransnet me thinks makes some feel good about themselves I suppose. What are you doing personally for the starving in Africa?

Aid isn't about the starving in Africa.

Which you would know if you took the tiniest moment to find out about it. But you won't, will you?

Maudi

17:06BlueBelle

Virtual signalling on Gransnet me thinks makes some feel good about themselves I suppose. What are you doing personally for the starving in Africa?

I see the spirit of Live Aid is well and truly dead and buried….

It was Andrew Mitchell. I’ve just checked my emails. I think he used to work with Jo Cox and was very upset by the reduction in aid.

17:06BlueBelle

Virtual signalling on Gransnet me thinks makes some feel good about themselves I suppose. What are you doing personally for the starving in Africa?

Andrew Mitchell might have been one of them.

maddyone

I thought the UK had set a certain percentage of money to be used for aid every year. Am I wrong?

The Conservative government reduced it I believe. Even Conservative MP’s were horrified by it and some voted against it I think. They certainly spoke out against it in parliament.

My goodness how do you sleep at night with that inhuman attitude Maudi and jabberwak I can’t believe anyone with a quarter of a heart could think like that

I thought the UK had set a certain percentage of money to be used for aid every year. Am I wrong?

This undercutting of local farmers has been going on for many years, but I don't think many on here will criticise the EU over anything,and I'm sure we are about to be given a perfectly good reason why this policy to ruin local farmers is fully justified.

We aren’t the only bad guys here. The eu have been stuffing Africa for years thanks to the €50 billion CAP payments.

www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/eu-common-agricultural-policy-hurts-africa-covid19-by-muhammed-magassy-2020-08

You're not reading the link, are you?

I know, I know. Don't confuse people with the facts when they've already made their minds up. ?

Good we've been sending money for years and it's made no difference, most of it lands in the pockets of the corrupt and makes little difference to the ordinary people

Absolutely.

We’ve got people in our own country having to use food banks, sleeping on the streets etc etc.

grandMattie

An African UN chap once said, “Africa is not poor, just poorly managed”. So yes, I agree with many posters about the corruption…

That "African UN Chap" was the president of Liberia. Nothing to do with the UN at all.

Also, she is a chap-ess.

I love an atmosphere of educated debate.

After over 60 years of independence with this, and other countries pouring masses of money into African and other countrys, you would think that by now, together with other resources that these countrys are well known for, that they would be thriving, wealthy modern places, but unfortunately some are poorer now than before Colonial days. How can this be? How and why are they so badly run? Why do villages still not have electricity, running water, proper roads, the basic necessities? If money and prosperity doesn't reach every day people, the young will still want to leave for a better life no matter how much or little we give in aid.

Whitewavemark2

volver

Did you read the link? Even a part of it?

Why do we bother.... ?

They haven’t read it.

Course not.

And people think government aid is what we send to help them get out of a natural disaster.

We enabled the education of a million and a half girls including 46,000 with disabilities? Prevented 5 million unwanted pregnancies? Prevented 1.5 million deaths from malaria?

Piffle. Waste of money, clearly. We'll have none of your factual information here, thank you. "I" know better.

I have worked in some of the poorer African states and seen with my own eyes sacks of grain and rice actually been taken off the lorries that were heading to distribution points and loaded onto ‘government vehicles’ that we were told were going to a central depot. The central depot was a large warehouse where the government sold these supplies on and the hungry poor got nothing.

volver

Did you read the link? Even a part of it?

Why do we bother.... ?

They haven’t read it.

That’s harsh ladies. Fraud may be a risk to an extent because it is everywhere, even here but when we have so much in comparison and can help people less lucky, I think we should.
Plus as has been said the poorer a country is the more likely the young will leave to find work elsewhere so they can send money back. They would be looking towards Europe and us and our relatively comfortable lives. You might not be happy with that either.

An African UN chap once said, “Africa is not poor, just poorly managed”. So yes, I agree with many posters about the corruption…

Did you read the link? Even a part of it?

Why do we bother.... ?

Jaberwok

Absolutely agree with you Maudi. This has happened for many decades with the people of these countries getting poorer and poorer while their corrupt governments and their friends get fabulously wealthy. Aid should be in kind not money, so that it has a chance to reach the people it is intended for.

That sounds like the U.K.

Absolutely agree with you Maudi. This has happened for many decades with the people of these countries getting poorer and poorer while their corrupt governments and their friends get fabulously wealthy. Aid should be in kind not money, so that it has a chance to reach the people it is intended for.

I weep for people’s inhumanity.

Not entirely what I'd call a waste of money that "made no difference".

www.coalitionforglobalprosperity.com/resources/2021/2/16/achievements-of-uk-aid

Maudi

Good we've been sending money for years and it's made no difference, most of it lands in the pockets of the corrupt and makes little difference to the ordinary people.

Yes, I agree.