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Diana’s death. This makes for interesting reading

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Lucca Wed 31-Aug-22 07:25:05

I had no idea about most of this.

Anniebach Sat 03-Sept-22 20:39:48

So not foretold the car crash but the injuries.

Who said Charles and Camilla hosted dinner parties ?

Zoejory Sat 03-Sept-22 20:38:45

lemsip

abcnews.go.com copied and pasted
In 1995, after dismissing her royal bodyguards, Diana was driving alone through London behind the wheel of her green Audi convertible when she approached a traffic when she approached a traffic light. She put her foot on the brake, but nothing happened. Frantic, she kept slamming the brakes as the car rolled into the intersection. Unharmed, she jumped out of the car and took a cab back to Kensington Palace. Then she dashed off a note to her friends Elsa Bowker, Lucia Flecha de Lima, Simone Simmons, and Lady Annabel Goldsmith. "he brakes of my car have been tampered with," Diana wrote. "If something does happen to me it will be MI5 or MI6."

Just ten months before she arrived in Paris with Dodi, Diana predicted the circumstances surrounding her own demise with uncanny accuracy—in writing. "I am sitting here at my desk today in October," she wrote, "longing for someone to hug me and encourage me to keep strong and hold my head high. This particular phase in my life is the most dangerous. My husband is planning an accident in my car, brake failure and serious head injury in order to make the path clear for Charles to marry."

That note came to the public's eye by Paul Burrell. That wonderful man who in actual fact was not remotely wonderful at all.

Lucia Flecha da Lima was one of Diana's closest friends and confidantes. She was adamant it wasn't authentic and didn't believe that Diana was fearing for her life.

So much nonsense. Diana died as a result of a car crash. She didn't sustain a head injury. nor was t here a problem with the car's breaks.

It's all nonsense and upsetting for Diana's children/freinds and family. To have to put up with this nonsense still is really unacceptable. Let the woman rest in peace now .

MissAdventure Sat 03-Sept-22 20:26:47

Was she happy to be pregnant at that time, as she came to realise that she had been used as an incubator, and that her husband and another woman still hosted dinner parties together, which the other royals attended?
I have no idea.

lemsip Sat 03-Sept-22 20:25:27

abcnews.go.com copied and pasted
In 1995, after dismissing her royal bodyguards, Diana was driving alone through London behind the wheel of her green Audi convertible when she approached a traffic when she approached a traffic light. She put her foot on the brake, but nothing happened. Frantic, she kept slamming the brakes as the car rolled into the intersection. Unharmed, she jumped out of the car and took a cab back to Kensington Palace. Then she dashed off a note to her friends Elsa Bowker, Lucia Flecha de Lima, Simone Simmons, and Lady Annabel Goldsmith. "he brakes of my car have been tampered with," Diana wrote. "If something does happen to me it will be MI5 or MI6."

Just ten months before she arrived in Paris with Dodi, Diana predicted the circumstances surrounding her own demise with uncanny accuracy—in writing. "I am sitting here at my desk today in October," she wrote, "longing for someone to hug me and encourage me to keep strong and hold my head high. This particular phase in my life is the most dangerous. My husband is planning an accident in my car, brake failure and serious head injury in order to make the path clear for Charles to marry."

Callistemon21 Sat 03-Sept-22 20:23:22

MissAdventure

Oh, I just realised you meant her pregnancy with William.
Wrong end of stick.

Yes, it was then.

MissAdventure Sat 03-Sept-22 20:18:37

Oh, I just realised you meant her pregnancy with William.
Wrong end of stick.

MissAdventure Sat 03-Sept-22 20:16:46

I don't think she was pregnant.
She really didn't know Dodi that well; it was never going to be a serious relationship.
Again, she was manipulated by people for their own ends, as we see time and again with beautiful, vulnerable women.

They believe they hold power, but they don't.

Callistemon21 Sat 03-Sept-22 20:10:58

A big, dramatic gesture, which again, in a toxic situation I would think many a woman would make

I'm not sure that many women would do it when they were pregnant, though, would they? If you were happy to be pregnant then your instinct is to protect your unborn child.

MissAdventure Sat 03-Sept-22 20:09:50

Her dramas certainly did nothing to endear her to Charles.
He hated it!

MissAdventure Sat 03-Sept-22 20:07:41

I would question the mental health issues, frankly.
She was an unhappy teen, and had an eating disorder, but I think lots of teens can teeter on the edge of disaster and teens, but go on to more healthy times.

The throwing herself down the stairs was explained in the book as Diana being so frustrated and lonely, in a marriage where she largely ignored.
She announced that she was going to do it, and did.
A big, dramatic gesture, which again, in a toxic situation I would think many a woman would make.

Joseanne Sat 03-Sept-22 20:06:18

I very much doubt that she knew, if in fact he was drunk.
But he is up close to her in the lift and in the corridor, caught on the hotel's camera.
But I still maintain she was used to letting others make the security decisions for her, so why would she question?

Callistemon21 Sat 03-Sept-22 19:54:21

Galaxy

I think its probable that she didnt know he was drunk, she probably had little engagement with him.

I very much doubt that she knew, if in fact he was drunk.

She may have been rather needy and gullible but she wasn't stupid.
Who knows what she was thinking, being pursued relentlessly by the paparazzi must have been unbearable.

Jaberwok Sat 03-Sept-22 19:53:55

They were apparently travelling to a former home of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor that Dodi's father had recently purchased.. Why they didn't wait till morning we'll never know.

Galaxy Sat 03-Sept-22 19:48:14

I think its probable that she didnt know he was drunk, she probably had little engagement with him.

GoldenAge Sat 03-Sept-22 19:38:56

The sad fact is that the RF as an institution is to blame because if as has been asserted, that D had mental health issues from being a child, why on earth was she invited into that family in the first place when it was blatantly obvious to all concerned that C was in love with another woman - a recipe for disaster. D was courted to make C look good. He treated her badly, and in the public eye D couldn't hold it together, not surprising that she developed paranoia - but nobody can say for certain that her death was no more than an accident - as has already been said, UK intelligence officers are capable of anything and the truth is that in those circles a nod and a wink are enough to set the wheels in motion for all sorts of subterfuge. Maybe it was all down to Dodi's reckless lifestyle. However, D had two sons she seemingly adored, and I find it hard to understand how she would have got into a car with a drunk who must have been reeking of alcohol in the lift as mentioned earlier.

MissAdventure Sat 03-Sept-22 19:03:24

I agree.
It is an accident waiting to happen.

I haven't read that their sole intention was to bait or play with the press, simply that they realised the press were there and went faster, as they had been planning to go and spend time enjoying the stunning views from one of Dodi's homes (?) as it was such a beautiful night/morning, or whatever.

Jaberwok Sat 03-Sept-22 18:43:07

I don't think anyone is exactly blaming Diana, but when all said and done not wearing a seat belt and getting into a car with a driver who is not fit to drive,and driving at excessive speed is foolish and asking for trouble.

Iam64 Sat 03-Sept-22 17:25:59

Blaming Diana for being killed in a car crash takes this to new levels of unkindness.

eazybee Sat 03-Sept-22 17:18:58

I have no idea how pilot's licence's are renewed in France, or England, simply that when he was driving the car that crashed he was two to three times over the legal limit, plus anti-depressants were also discovered in his blood.
His judgement was clearly impaired, hence the speed and the crash.

MissAdventure Sat 03-Sept-22 16:37:53

It may well be fact. I wouldn't know, at the time it was said that she obviously approved of the book because she was seen out and about with Norton shortly after the book release.

Anniebach Sat 03-Sept-22 16:34:13

I didn’t say that. Fact - she recorded what she wanted in the book and the tapes were delivered to Norton by James Colthurst

MissAdventure Sat 03-Sept-22 16:27:17

Written by Andrew Norton.

I don't ever recall her saying anything along the lines of "I've had loads of men, but then I only married Charles because I wanted to be a princess to anyone, but that is often said about her.

Anniebach Sat 03-Sept-22 16:25:58

Diana wrote the Morton book

Anniebach Sat 03-Sept-22 16:25:26

And her sister didn’t tell her, or anyone in their circle , most
strange

Anniebach Sat 03-Sept-22 16:23:45

Said by Diana