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Diana’s death. This makes for interesting reading

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Lucca Wed 31-Aug-22 07:25:05

I had no idea about most of this.

DeeDe Fri 02-Sept-22 14:59:01

Agree completely, they were killed, no way was the royal family allowing that relationship to continue
Years ago my MIL knew someone who worked at the palace and you wouldn’t believe half of what goes on and the skullduggery even then.
poor Diana was not much more than a child when groomed into that family, they thought she would be easily controlled,
She wasn’t and stood up, which sadly cost her
Cruel and totally wicked …
The police are no competition for the Firm !!!!

Galaxy Fri 02-Sept-22 14:54:05

I hope so Annie.

wicklowwinnie Fri 02-Sept-22 14:46:27

None of us know the truth of Diana's death, but we all know it has been the most convenient death of all time.
It will have done a great deal to advance the Republican cause.
The RF did not appreciate how much it would have benefited them having Diana in the family.

Anniebach Fri 02-Sept-22 14:38:57

She did Galaxy. Married, engaged, single men.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 02-Sept-22 14:27:39

I haven’t gleaned my knowledge from films or books.

Coco51 Fri 02-Sept-22 14:25:07

Germanshepherdsmum

The intelligence services have ways of knowing things, and of covering all bases.

They work for National Security not random assassinations. What you read and see in books and/or films is exacerbated fiction and unrelated to reality. I know from experience the
fundamental truth is mundane.

Galaxy Fri 02-Sept-22 14:23:03

I honestly hope she slept with everyone she wanted to in her short life. I know I would have.

Summerlove Fri 02-Sept-22 14:22:05

Callistemon21

Are you saying that If he did have her security report her movements to him, that it was a good thing?

Callistemon21 Fri 02-Sept-22 14:20:32

Summerlove

*Diana believed it long before Bashir got involved. She ditched her security in 1993 when she realised Charles was being informed of her every move and any liasons. The Bashir interview was 95. Funny how things get changed and twisted in this case isn't it.*

I'm blown away here by how many seem to think it acceptable for a man to spy on his separated wife. Whether he did or not is up for debate, but those defending it are blowing my mind.

I'm surprised by how many know so much about what Charles did and didn't do!
Spying?

Perhaps his main concern was the safety of his children as any concerned father might be if they were with their erratic mother and one of her many lovers.

icanhandthemback Fri 02-Sept-22 14:16:38

Me too, Summerlove. Any other wife would call it stalking!

icanhandthemback Fri 02-Sept-22 14:15:00

Anniebach

King of England ?

Sorry Anniebach. Independence came early in my addled brain! King of the UK. Apologies.

Anniebach Fri 02-Sept-22 14:13:03

She predicted it in a letter ? , did she predict it or her psychic ?

Summerlove Fri 02-Sept-22 14:12:48

Diana believed it long before Bashir got involved. She ditched her security in 1993 when she realised Charles was being informed of her every move and any liasons. The Bashir interview was 95. Funny how things get changed and twisted in this case isn't it.

I'm blown away here by how many seem to think it acceptable for a man to spy on his separated wife. Whether he did or not is up for debate, but those defending it are blowing my mind.

Callistemon21 Fri 02-Sept-22 14:07:05

She knew it would happen, she predicted it in a letter that they overlooked and forgot to destroy

So, if you thought someone was plotting to kill you in a car crash why would you get into a car with a driver who had been allegedly been drinking, not put on a seatbelt and spped across a city at night?

It makes no sense whatsoever.

Which letter, where is it and what does it say?

We do know that Prince Philip was fond of Diana and sufficiently concerned about her to write some kind and supportive letters to her. She referred to him in her letters as Dearest Pa.

hallgreenmiss Fri 02-Sept-22 14:00:36

nanna8

Sorry but It am still convinced she was murdered. People lie, including those ‘investigators’. She knew it would happen, she predicted it in a letter that they overlooked and forgot to destroy.

They were due to return to uk the day before but had to go to Paris to see to some business. No one could possibly have coordinated a plot to kill her. Who knew, for instance, that she wouldn’t be wearing a seat belt, or that the driver would be drunk?

Anniebach Fri 02-Sept-22 13:56:34

King of England ?

icanhandthemback Fri 02-Sept-22 13:32:50

You choose to run around with euro trash when you know that you're the Mother of two Royal sons - one of whom will be King one day - and it's not hard to see that you're already making some very poor choices. Although it would seem she was unaware that the risks she was taking were enormous.

What a horrible way of describing someone. She may have made poor choices but what you have written seems to have been a particularly poor choice of words.

I don't think that Princess Diana was murdered but I do think her days were numbered one way or another. Although she was perfectly entitled to sleep with whom she wanted, the RF or State would have not wanted this as the mother of the future King of England. I also think that she probably got caught up in the moment with the clamour of the Paparazzi, the chase and a new flirtation so probably couldn't think straight with all the adrenalin which must have been surging through her. What a horrible end that must have been and I firmly blame the media.

I hate that she died but she taught me a lifelong lesson. Always travel with a seat belt.

Theoddbird Fri 02-Sept-22 13:31:18

I wish people would just let her rest in peace. Does nobody care about what all these newspaper reports must do to William and Harry? Everyone is still so eager to read all the possible lies being written about Diana and what happened to her. Discussion about her should be banned on here for a start....

Smileless2012 Fri 02-Sept-22 13:25:02

Maybe they thought she'd be controllable grandtante. She was young, her father was an Earl and as far as I'm aware there were no exes to come out of the woodwork to tarnish her reputation.

Coco51 Fri 02-Sept-22 13:18:56

Princess Grace of Monaco abeautiful young woman also died in a car crash (1982) should we question whether that was murder? Some of the newspaper journalists admitted their stories about Diana were not based in truth. As one said it was in their interests to keep the conspiracy stories going to sell papers.
Richard Tomlinson had a gripe against MI6 and his allegations related to a purported plot to kill a Serb. He admitted that his idea of the tunnel and bright lights to cause a car crash emanated from that. As to MI6 carrying out assassinations, they do not have a ‘licence to kill’. If they did, surely Putin would be long dead

MissAdventure Fri 02-Sept-22 12:43:59

Is Burrell completely trustworthy?
I can't remember who, but one of Diana's other confidantes has said that she has never seen or been told any of the things written in the letter Burrell kept.

Coco51 Fri 02-Sept-22 12:39:47

The accident investigator said the crash was survivable had they been wearing seatbelts. Diana’s bodygard did and survivived. Paul Burrel said in an interview that she was ’unstable’ when she predicted she would be killed in a car crash. Can conspiracy theorists imagine that the Royal Family would be so cruel as to put those poor little princes through so much trauma as to take their mother away from them? The Duke of Edinburgh had an horrendous childhood with his mother mentally ill and his father taking off. From the age of ten to 16 he never saw his mother until the funeral of his favourite sister after their deaths in a plane crash. He would not have subjected his grandsons to the same bereavement. Diana was sufficiently paranoid to say Camilla PB was a ’decoy’ and Charles wanted to marry Tiggy Legg-Bourke who had aborted the prince’s baby! Since Charles married Camilla it is obvious that there was a great deal of delusion un Diana’s mental health.

undines Fri 02-Sept-22 12:38:10

I agree, Nanna. None of us want to believe in conspiracies because if the ones involving our government are true then it shakes our faith in our institutions and makes us feel very insecure. Newsflash - we ARE insecure. People get into power most often through not caring about others, and I fear we are to a large extent governed by sociopaths. I'm not sure exactly what was going on re Diana, maybe it was an opportunist semi-murder, because they'd been wanting for a while to bump her off - who knows? But she was an embarrassment to the Royal Family, poor woman. As for conspiracies in general - why would there NOT be? Corrupt, unscrupulous people getting together to manipulate situations - makes perfect sense to me. Having said this, one must retain a healthy scepticism - not every conspiracy theory is going to be true.

grandtanteJE65 Fri 02-Sept-22 12:36:43

Dillonsgranma

It was very odd that she had been partially embalmed before her sister and Charles arrived to fetch her home . The embalming would have hidden any pregnao

Not odd at all. Many people are embalmed these days even if the funeral is to be held immediately.

Do any of you know, I certainly do not, what the normal procedure is for a member of the Royal Family?

Embalming fluid would not hide a pregnancy, but it seems most likely that the pregnancy was a totally unfounded rumour. At the time, the newspaper that first published it claimed to have been told about it by the doctor she had consulted.

No doctor would have let himself been tricked into making that admission and would certainly not voluntarily have told a journalist details of a professional consultation.

grandtanteJE65 Fri 02-Sept-22 12:29:34

Why rake this over now?

Diana's death certainly looked suspicious at the time, but it did not help either then or now that so many unfounded rumours and theories were published, quite irresponsibly by serious newspapers.

Personally, I always wondered why any member of the Royal Family thought she was in any way suitable as a wife for Prince Charles. She always came across as far too sensitive a young woman to deal the limelight, and certainly not the kind to deal with a husband who had apparently no intention of dismissing his mistress.

Let the poor woman rest in peace. Her death was tragic, but all deaths at her age are.