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Diana’s death. This makes for interesting reading

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Lucca Wed 31-Aug-22 07:25:05

I had no idea about most of this.

SiobhanSharpe Fri 02-Sept-22 12:20:12

I believe Diana did normally wear a safety belt which was fastened for her by one of her security team as they put her in the car.
The security man who accompanied her was new, may have been unaware of the procedure and that her belt was not fastened. Maybe she said she'd do it herself. Who knows?

Glorianny Fri 02-Sept-22 12:08:37

Actually the whole question of seatbelts has been queried. The body guard who was wearing one had substantial face and head injuries. Diana who wasn't looked uninjured. As the car was travelling at speed and she had no belt she would have been thrown about during the crash but apparently without injury apart from the internal ones.

Glorianny Fri 02-Sept-22 12:04:53

JaneJudge

why would embalming be unusual and conceal a pregnancy?

The usual process is to keep a body in cold storage until after it has been IDd. According to accounts it was put in a side room and decay had already started so it was embalmed. Quite why there wasn't a proper mortuary place available doesn't ever seem to be asked. Lots of funeral places and most hospitals have them.

JdotJ Fri 02-Sept-22 12:04:14

nanna8

Sorry but It am still convinced she was murdered. People lie, including those ‘investigators’. She knew it would happen, she predicted it in a letter that they overlooked and forgot to destroy.

Did they refuse to let her wear a seat belt?

SiobhanSharpe Fri 02-Sept-22 12:02:02

The crash was an accident but it did present an opportunity.
When I was in a media organisation there were colleagues who were suspected of being too close to the security services, or even being former members thereof.
It would not be unusual if any of the papparazzi who routinely followed Diana around had similar links.
Photos were taken of the dying princess in the car after the crash and a quick phone call to a hot line was very possible. Delays might have been ordered.
It took well over an hour to get her to a hospital, in central Paris, a much smaller city than London. Equipment in an ambulance could not possibly compare with what is available in a modern hospital.
Not a fail proof scenario and almost certainly not involving members of the RF but but still an opportunity that could be taken advantage of by those with agendas to advance.

JaneJudge Fri 02-Sept-22 11:57:39

why would embalming be unusual and conceal a pregnancy?

Dillonsgranma Fri 02-Sept-22 11:56:26

It was very odd that she had been partially embalmed before her sister and Charles arrived to fetch her home . The embalming would have hidden any pregnao

MissAdventure Fri 02-Sept-22 11:51:50

Dodi absolutely was the apple of his eye.

Vintagenonna Fri 02-Sept-22 11:49:04

Mr. Al Fayd lost a son and, as far as I know, is very unwell himself. I wonder if his health difficulties had already begun to manifest themselves in what he said & did.

JaneJudge Fri 02-Sept-22 11:43:38

It doesn't really matter how many boyfriends/lovers she had. She was free to do as she pleased as she was no longer married. She was quite open about her mental health struggles and I'm sure that was helpful to lots of people, as was her charitable work.

Sparklefizz Fri 02-Sept-22 11:42:33

Her real love was Hasnat Kahn and they were together for 2 years and she even met his family .... there was much more likelihood of her marrying him than Dodi.

MissAdventure Fri 02-Sept-22 11:38:02

I think Dodi's father would have been delighted had she married Dodi, but it really was still at the stage of getting to know eachother, and not many people liked Dodi once they did.

Annaram1 Fri 02-Sept-22 11:34:44

Diana would never have married Dodi. He was just the latest in a long string of boyfriends/lovers. His father may have wished it though.

spabbygirl Fri 02-Sept-22 11:21:32

It doesn't matter how much you examine what happened afterwards its the bit before the crash that mattered. Someone shone a bright light in the drivers eyes and another car pushed Diana's off the road. The worst thing Diana could have done was marry Dodi and make him stepfather to Will & Harry & they couldn't let her do that

Daddima Thu 01-Sept-22 17:07:09

Most of what we ‘know’ has been read in newspapers or online, so, hardly totally credible. And surely, with all their resources, MI 5/6 or whoever, could have done away with her more efficiently? I heard Lady Colin Campbell ( no, don’t sneer) say they could have done something like staging a drowning by having divers in the water when she was in the South of France, rather than relying on the circumstances around a crash.
It was an accident, and she was not wearing a seatbelt.

Mollygo Thu 01-Sept-22 16:39:28

It really seems to depend what you want to believe. She’s dead, whatever happened.

Anniebach Thu 01-Sept-22 16:07:56

We do know what happen, she died in a car crash but a murder is of more interest to some.

Esmay Thu 01-Sept-22 16:02:33

Hi Callistemon ,

It's all academic now -but according to my friend , who is a consultant specialising in trauma - it would take highly specialised equipment and technique to stabilise a ruptured pulmonary vein at the scene .
And they also drove to a hospital which is a long way away from the tunnel .

We shall never really know .

If only most of us could get into a Tardis .

We shall never really know what happened to Diana let alone restore her to her family .

MissAdventure Thu 01-Sept-22 15:23:34

Yes, but I never read it.
I will now, though, and I would also watch an interview with Trevor (who, incidentally, didn't suggest any kind of conspiracy in his book)

Anniebach Thu 01-Sept-22 15:12:21

*MissAdventure , following Diana or not , the enquiry was fully
covered.

Callistemon21 Thu 01-Sept-22 15:04:53

Here it is:

www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/nov/14/monarchy.davidbatty

Callistemon21 Thu 01-Sept-22 15:03:51

Having had an accident in Paris -I know just how long the emergency services take to come .
And how inefficient they were .

I don't know the exact timing, Esmay but I understand that they were at the scene of the accident fairly rapidly, together with a doctor who spent 40 minutes trying to stabilise Diana before he said she could be moved and the ambulance drove slowly because of the critical condition she was in.
I did post on this or another thread? the press report of the inquest and why the journey appeared to be slow.

MissAdventure Thu 01-Sept-22 14:59:41

I'd have to check the official report before answering that.
It may just be that I don't know enough details, because I didn't follow Diana closely.

Anniebach Thu 01-Sept-22 14:55:21

Two enquiries and we don’t know the full details? What more is
there to know ?

MissAdventure Thu 01-Sept-22 14:30:03

I never said it was.
I just meant that they are able to work out what happened when nobody else but the victim and the perpetrator would know.