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Boris Back by Christmas! ?

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FannyCornforth Sun 04-Sept-22 11:55:38

The plotting to get shut of Truss of is already underway.
But the good news is that it could lead to a General Election
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-leadership-challenge-vote-b2159270.html?amp

Nannan2 Tue 06-Sept-22 11:03:14

Ive no time for anyone still supporting Boris?

Nannan2 Tue 06-Sept-22 10:57:51

So she got in then? I was totally busy all day yesterday so no news or tv on but how has she done that if her own party are already against her? I think all politics is probably a fix tbh.Gawd havent they realised yet that installing the women never works?- it works even less than having Boris in!!!

Petera Tue 06-Sept-22 10:34:06

ruthie2

To add my voice to the minority above (and let's hope there's an additional silent majority out there) - I have always supported Boris, i have always said that Partygate was a stitch-up and I would be delighted if he were to return. And let me also refer to recent press coverage which said, the government now regrets that it gave Sage (scientists of doom) too much authority, and allowed them to prioritise their own agenda and disregard the nation's economy.

Too much authority? The only piece of advice that I can see they followed was to recommend working from home if possible. But maybe that's what you're against?

Here's the situation at the end of 2020

" Full lockdown

What scientists recommended: They did not go as far as recommending a full lockdown on the scale of the one in the spring. This was also an outcome Prime Minister Boris Johnson has been extremely keen to avoid.

What happened: The government opted for a three-tier system in England, with household mixing indoors banned only in the areas of highest concern. Businesses will broadly remain open.

Circuit-breaker

What they recommended: Sage said government should consider a short lockdown of two or three weeks, immediately, to bring down the number of cases.

What happened: This idea was rejected by No 10 in favour of an option that keeps businesses open and household contact going for most of the country, but with the threat that such privileges could be taken away if cases rise.

Going to work

What they recommended: The scientists recommended people be advised to work from home if they could.

What happened: Those who can were once again being advised to work from home, in a reversal of the government's drive over summer to encourage more people back to the workplace .

Mixing with other households

What they recommended: The advisory group said government should consider immediately putting a stop to contact between households, unless they were part of a support bubble.

What happened: Mixing with other households indoors has been banned for people living in areas on "high" or "very high" alert. Outdoor mixing is allowed in groups of no more than six.

Pubs and restaurants

What they recommended: Sage said government should consider the immediate closure of closure of all bars, restaurants, cafes, indoor gyms, and "personal services", for example hairdressers.

What happened: The government largely rejected the advice. Most of England can continue going to pubs and restaurants.

Schools, colleges and universities

What they recommended: Sage recommended all university and college teaching should be carried out online "unless absolutely essential", but schools should continue in person.

What happened: Schools and universities remain open - although many universities moved teaching online anyway due to outbreaks."

Whitewavemark2 Tue 06-Sept-22 10:26:15

Germanshepherdsmum

That was my understanding of the reference too, Maizie. I believe he will be back - time will tell.

Cincinnatus = well known enemy of the people,

So apt description/choice

Longdot20 Tue 06-Sept-22 10:22:12

Just popped back in to see what is happening on GN and feel I must say I liked Boris (cant say that for a lot of the PM’s) he got a lot of things done for the country in its worse crisis since the war. OK he’s not perfect but then who is? (Smile)

Fleurpepper Tue 06-Sept-22 10:20:54

LizzieDrip

Johnson’s boasting about the ‘world beating’ vaccine rollout is pure gaslighting. He is changing the narrative of what actually happened during the early days of the pandemic to suit himself - classic gaslighting behaviour. Of course the number of excess Covid deaths in the UK is never mentioned. Deaths per 100,000 of population stats:

Kingdom275.49
Russia262.74
Ukraine248.73
Portugal240.54
Serbia238.25
Spain236.43
Austria230.83
France230.54
Liechtenstein219.37
Andorra199.31
Estonia198.8
Sweden190.58
Luxembourg179.04
Kosovo176.93
Germany176.01
Ireland156.76
Switzerland155.86

I could go on. Someone said earlier in this thread that people have forgotten about Covid. Many of us haven’t - particularly those who lost loved ones. Johnson’s actions (or lack of actions) are responsible. The man is an evil gaslighter and should never be allowed anywhere near government. Where is the Covid enquiry!

The fact he by-passed common EU negotiations on buying in bulk, thus lowering the price for all - has saddled the UK with massive debts as we paid much much more than EU for vaccines. They caught up very quickly with vaccinations, and took measures to lower transmission much earlier and better.

MaizieD Tue 06-Sept-22 10:19:19

Have you not read the two posts above yours, Parsely?

Here's another tweet, responding to his pathetic 'they changed the rules' comment

Rachel Clarke
@doctor_oxford
·
51m
When @BorisJohnson raised this glass and chortled, 60,000 of us still lived, still breathed, who, only three months later, would be dead

Never, never forget.

THIS is his true legacy. He threw that wine into the faces of us all.

See the original tweet for the picture she refers to..

twitter.com/doctor_oxford/status/1567067913688956928

Glorianny Tue 06-Sept-22 10:16:14

Had lunch with a lovely friend who is a confirmed tory. When we talked about Boris she said "Aw leave the poor man alone." So some are already painting him as a victim, who has been picked on. I've a feeling he will be back!

Parsley3 Tue 06-Sept-22 10:15:35

twitter.com/wmarybeard/status/1567039650027413506?t=yIbMBcZnZoYmoRU9sET5Dw&s=19

Perhaps he was telling us something after all.

MaizieD Tue 06-Sept-22 10:09:20

Germanshepherdsmum

That was my understanding of the reference too, Maizie. I believe he will be back - time will tell.

I'm pinning my hopes on the Privileges Committee, GSM. If his constant deliberate lying to Parliament doesn't earn him a suspension and a recall petition there is no justice left in the UK.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 06-Sept-22 09:59:18

That was my understanding of the reference too, Maizie. I believe he will be back - time will tell.

MaizieD Tue 06-Sept-22 09:56:44

Parsley3

Nothing to worry about regarding a return. He says he is going back to his plough.

As I understand it the Cincinnatus reference was to the fact that he left his farming to save Rome from deadly peril. The egomaniac is referring to what he thinks will be his inevitable return to the top job...

In the meantime he will do his level best to undermine Truss. Whether this means he will bother to turn up to Parliament as a backbencher, or he intends to campaign via his client media remains to be seen.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 06-Sept-22 09:41:57

Did Ruthie say she read the Mail? I obviously missed that. A lot of Conservative voters do read the broadsheets. I’m one of them.

Barmeyoldbat Tue 06-Sept-22 09:38:20

I suggest Ruthie you read a decent paper and stop reading the mail

Parsley3 Tue 06-Sept-22 09:21:05

twitter.com/10DowningStreet/status/1567051322423140353?t=sJRiIn4XosQ8mel5aC9l2g&s=19

The end of an error era.

Dickens Tue 06-Sept-22 09:11:41

ruthie2

To add my voice to the minority above (and let's hope there's an additional silent majority out there) - I have always supported Boris, i have always said that Partygate was a stitch-up and I would be delighted if he were to return. And let me also refer to recent press coverage which said, the government now regrets that it gave Sage (scientists of doom) too much authority, and allowed them to prioritise their own agenda and disregard the nation's economy.

In reality, under our first-past-the-post electoral system, winning a majority of seats does not mean that the majority of people support you.

The mood of the country at the moment would seem to indicate that the 'silent majority' is anything but.

As for Partygate, Johnson obfuscated, twisted and turned over the affair. If he'd just come clean and held his hands up and apologised, it could have been a storm in a teacup. Sure, it was used as a ploy against him by those with vested interests - but this too could have been avoided had he not tried to wriggle out of an obligation he imposed on others and which he chose to ignore.

Parsley3 Tue 06-Sept-22 08:42:37

Nothing to worry about regarding a return. He says he is going back to his plough.

LizzieDrip Tue 06-Sept-22 08:37:06

*United Kingdom

LizzieDrip Tue 06-Sept-22 08:35:18

Johnson’s boasting about the ‘world beating’ vaccine rollout is pure gaslighting. He is changing the narrative of what actually happened during the early days of the pandemic to suit himself - classic gaslighting behaviour. Of course the number of excess Covid deaths in the UK is never mentioned. Deaths per 100,000 of population stats:

Kingdom275.49
Russia262.74
Ukraine248.73
Portugal240.54
Serbia238.25
Spain236.43
Austria230.83
France230.54
Liechtenstein219.37
Andorra199.31
Estonia198.8
Sweden190.58
Luxembourg179.04
Kosovo176.93
Germany176.01
Ireland156.76
Switzerland155.86

I could go on. Someone said earlier in this thread that people have forgotten about Covid. Many of us haven’t - particularly those who lost loved ones. Johnson’s actions (or lack of actions) are responsible. The man is an evil gaslighter and should never be allowed anywhere near government. Where is the Covid enquiry!

Lilyflower Tue 06-Sept-22 07:11:21

No need to panic as he won’t be back.

vegansrock Tue 06-Sept-22 06:45:06

Those who support Johnson obviously don’t mind being led by someone with no honesty, integrity or morality. The fact that everything in this country is so much worse than 10 years ago - NHS, social care, education, utilities, water and air quality is nothing to do with the government?

ruthie2 Tue 06-Sept-22 03:29:27

To add my voice to the minority above (and let's hope there's an additional silent majority out there) - I have always supported Boris, i have always said that Partygate was a stitch-up and I would be delighted if he were to return. And let me also refer to recent press coverage which said, the government now regrets that it gave Sage (scientists of doom) too much authority, and allowed them to prioritise their own agenda and disregard the nation's economy.

orly Mon 05-Sept-22 23:08:52

Like the Blair/Brown years?

Dinahmo Mon 05-Sept-22 22:16:15

Ashcombe

^My DH is registered for healthcare in France where he lives and his vaccinations occurred a few months after mine, despite us being of similar age.^

Coincidentally, following my comment on this thread earlier today, DH (aged 73) just received a phone call offering him his fourth booster on the 16th September. I'm under the NHS and have heard nothing. I'm 72.

The 4th booster was made available to us wef 7th April for all those between 60 and 79. The only proviso was that you could not have it until 6 months after your previous jab. I went to our local pharmacie and made an appointment for the earliest date possible which for us was mid June.

After the early confusion with computers crashing under the weight of people trying to make appointments the system in France operated very smoothly, particularly after the pharmacies became involved.

Dinahmo Mon 05-Sept-22 22:09:44

BlueBelle

Oh my flipping word people actually saying they want Johnson back I m going down Alice’s rabbit hole and stay there
Yea I think Johnson is expecting to come up smelling of roses and judging by some people even posting on Gn he probably will
I think Truss has been set up by those awful people just so
she ll fail and people will say oh Johnson (no they ll say Boris like he’s their cousin or brother) will sort it all out
I want to leave uk and if I was younger I would I m hating it soooooooooo much

We left for France 15 years ago. Most of our friends thought we were very brave to move to a new country, even one with which they are all familiar. Some of them now wish that they'd been brave enough to do the same.