The Queen…

I know that one cannot ‘dictate’ what is said on a thread, but it would be respectful if this thread remained for memories of thoughts of the Queen and her family, please.
It is only 16 hours since her death was announced.
The disruptions etc could (should?) be discussed on another thread.
For instance, a poster has started a thread about a charity event being cancelled. It doesn’t need to be mentioned here.
If we aren’t careful, this thread could end up attacking Harry and his wife; berating Camilla etc; and degenerate into all sorts of unpleasant things, and cause unnecessary upset.
Thank you

The country's gone mad. Its like going back in time to 1996 or was it 1997? when people collectively took leave of their senses.
And there's 10 More Days of it!
Went to the shop earlier and loads of people wearing black and black armbands.
The Queen liked bright colours so people should wear those if they so choose.
But I suspect they would get abuse if they did.

Well said Fanny

snowberryZ

The country's gone mad. Its like going back in time to 1996 or was it 1997? when people collectively took leave of their senses.
And there's 10 More Days of it!
Went to the shop earlier and loads of people wearing black and black armbands.
The Queen liked bright colours so people should wear those if they so choose.
But I suspect they would get abuse if they did.

AND.....back them were very insulting in comments about the Queen!!! Had she died back then would have been little public mourning.

Well said Fanny.

And I have to say that I thought Boris's tribute to the Queen was just right.

Maddyone, I'm very sorry to hear of the loss of your mother.

This is a sad time for the family of the Queen. My condolences to them. I respect the incredible dedication the Queen gave to her role. She really gave it her all to the end.

It was 1997 that Diana died, it was 25 years ago last month

Spot on Fanny. Just like to add it is extremely quiet here. Not much traffic or people about.

So sorry too to hear of the loss of your mother Maddyone.

Well said Fanny.

I live next door but one to our local primary school, there was a noticeable quietness whilst Mums and children were awaiting the gate to open.

JaneJudge

It was 1997 that Diana died, it was 25 years ago last month

Strange to think it was that long ago.

Feeling very emotional today. Just signed Book of Condolence on the Royal Family's website so feel I have paid my respects to them directly. Thinking of King Charles and all his family today.

snowberryZ

JaneJudge

It was 1997 that Diana died, it was 25 years ago last month

Strange to think it was that long ago.

I know, the time passes quickly doesn't it. It is very sad for her children that she has missed so much of their life.

FannyCornforth

I know that one cannot ‘dictate’ what is said on a thread, but it would be respectful if this thread remained for memories of thoughts of the Queen and her family, please.
It is only 16 hours since her death was announced.
The disruptions etc could (should?) be discussed on another thread.
For instance, a poster has started a thread about a charity event being cancelled. It doesn’t need to be mentioned here.
If we aren’t careful, this thread could end up attacking Harry and his wife; berating Camilla etc; and degenerate into all sorts of unpleasant things, and cause unnecessary upset.
Thank you

This thread is not titled " Tributes to the Queen" so I don't think it is very fair to unilaterally declare it to be that.
Not everyone has the same view of the Queen's death and their views are just as valid as everyone else's. If you want a thread dedicated to tributes then I suggest you start one.
FWIW I greatly admired HM, she did an outstanding job and feel very sad at the news.

Fanny. Thank you and well said.

Can we please keep this thread on track, a place where we can show our respect.

For those of you who don't wish to join in the nations mourning then don't. Just go about your business, no one will think any the worse of you.

For those who are bemoaning the media coverage, then put yourself on a media fast. It's easy enough to avoid the major tv channels, and you don't have to buy newspapers.

Anyone who has lost a loved one will know that a time of mourning is also a necessary time for quiet reflection, to review the past and to think about what might lie ahead in the future. A time to step of the treadmill for a while and just pause.

We have a hard time ahead of us in the next couple of years or so, a period of sober reflection and a time to take stock is sorely needed right now.

Whether you are a monarchist or not is largely irrelevant, the simple truth is this was a woman who for over 70 years stood at the very epicentre of life in the U.K. a woman who dedicated her life to duty and the service of the nation.

The least she deserves is a period of quiet reflection and thanks for a lifetime of devotion to her country,

So please .....

I would say to those who wish to open up a wider discussion about other members of the royal family or the government or whatever, please start a separate thread. Let's keep this one respectful and dignified.

Let's just be kind because right now, more than anything else, kindness is what is needed.

Well said FannyCornforth. I agree.
I am truly sorry, Maddyone about the loss of your dear mother. My condolences to you and your family,.

I know that people think I am an argumentative so-and-so, but I would like to think that I have a sense of propriety. There is a line not to cross, and in a thread talking about the passing of such an important historical figure I don't believe its appropriate to cheer on the fact it will make your day easier or complain about there being nothing on telly.

Well said Fanny.

Thanks to the New Statesman's Morning Call email for these details. These traditions have been designed to help those who are grieving, sad or simply feel life has changed. Please, could people remember the Queen would often say "it's not about me" and make this a "not about me" thread? I can only agree with others, that it is and should be about the death of a lady who, in the best way she was able, served her country for over 70 years.

A meticulous national plan has now gone into effect. At Westminster Hall late last night, workers had already begun to take down railings and benches in preparation for the Queen to lie in state – as Churchill did in 1965 – for three days next week. Britons will, for 23 hours a day, be able to file past the Queen’s coffin. Five hundred thousand visitors are expected, with queues for several miles.

The Queen’s funeral is then expected to be held in Westminster Abbey in ten or 11 days’ time. Political leaders and foreign dignitaries will descend on London ahead of the service, with President Biden among those expected to attend (although his press secretary declined to confirm as much yesterday). Parliament will meet from noon today, and from 2pm tomorrow in a rare Saturday sitting. MPs will pay tribute to the Queen and, for those who wish to do so, swear allegiance to the King.

I'd just like to note that the Grans who most often post regarding their non monarchist views are notably holding back. I'd like to thank them for respecting the situation and our feelings.

We are obviously bound to have different opinions. Mercifully we live in a free country and can express them.
First of all my sympathy to Maddy-a sad day for you too.
The Queen made public her Christian beliefs-not always easy these days. My sympathies go the RF as they grieve her but, as others have said, she had a long life and died peacefully in her own bed-an end denied to so many of us now sadly.
As others have said, Gangan, Frambern, Gango foxy and Fleur Pepper these are very difficult days for many and this MUST be taken into account. The RF are incredibly wealthy-I hope they massively contribute to the cost of the public funeral.
I’m afraid Charles and Camilla I’m sure must be preparing themselves for a backlash. He has, unlike the Queen, not been an honorable man.
It truly is time for an end to this type of monarchy/ leadership IMHO

Hmmm. I spoke too soon apparently. ?

Thank you Fanny

Sparklefizz

Well said Fanny.

And I have to say that I thought Boris's tribute to the Queen was just right.

Well, I've been thinking about that in wakeful periods all night and it has made me very angry.

Why was broadcasting time given to a former PM who was forced to resign by his own ministers and parliamentary party because of his lying, breaking of parliamentary conventions (like the ministerial code), partying when everyone, including the Queen was observing the covid rules, making the UK an international laughing stock and destroying international trust by threatening to break international treaties.? One of who's early actions as PM was to lie to the Queen... A man who disgraced his office in a way that no previous PM has ever done and who is the complete antithesis of everything the Queen represented and acted on in her lifetime.

I think it was an insult to her memory that this worthless individual was allowed to broadcast a 'tribute' as though he were still PM.

I am deeply thankful that she hung on for long enough to get rid of him as PM otherwise we would have to endure him milking her death for all it is worth and making sure that he hogged the limelight.

volver

I know that people think I am an argumentative so-and-so, but I would like to think that I have a sense of propriety. There is a line not to cross, and in a thread talking about the passing of such an important historical figure I don't believe its appropriate to cheer on the fact it will make your day easier or complain about there being nothing on telly.

Well said Fanny.

Absolutely. Well said volver

Thank you Fanny and DSL.