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FannyCornforth Thu 08-Sept-22 12:38:58

It sounds worrying, doesn’t it?

merlotgran Sat 10-Sept-22 23:04:14

William was an RAF Search and Rescue pilot when they lived in Anglesey. He became a pilot for the East Anglian Air Ambulance Service when he left the RAF.

Jane43 Sat 10-Sept-22 22:48:38

Jaberwok

I through William and Catherine lived at Anglesey when they were first married? Perhaps I'm wrong, but I know they lived away from the limelight for a while and William was an air ambulance pilot.

You are correct and Catherine used to be seen regularly in the local shops.

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Sept-22 22:37:37

Will we see a rise in the Welsh Independence movement?

Oh goodness, will we see the signposts turned round again?
Never mind, believe the satnav for once.

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Sept-22 22:34:04

Massive?

No sign of it here yet.
Ah yes, change.org, struggling to reach 10,000 signatures.

paddyann54 Sat 10-Sept-22 22:26:41

My cousin who was born and lives in South wales says theres a massive petition doing the rounds to stop the title Prince of Wales being used again.
She says the Welsh ,herself included believe an Englih prince ha no right to use it as it was taken(stolen) illegally and that there has been a lot of interest in the petition with signature numbers rising fast .
Will we see a rise in the Welsh Independence movement?

Jaberwok Sat 10-Sept-22 22:17:09

I through William and Catherine lived at Anglesey when they were first married? Perhaps I'm wrong, but I know they lived away from the limelight for a while and William was an air ambulance pilot.

welbeck Sat 10-Sept-22 21:43:46

service at 3pm at st giles', monday.

Elegran Sat 10-Sept-22 21:20:53

So, there will be a procession taking her from Holyrood to St Giles at at 14:35BST in the afternoon of Monday 12th Sept. She will be lying in state in St Giles for 24 hours starting from that afternoon.

Lots of detail about the next few days - the route from Balmorea to Edinburgh and the road closures in Edinburgh centre for the journey and the procession etc. at www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62862148

Elegran Sat 10-Sept-22 20:56:00

You may be able to make a more exact estimate by working backwards from the Westminster lying-in-state, as reported in ITV news online -

"The Queen will also lie in state at Westminster Hall in central London.

Traditionally, lying in state begins five days after the day of death - known operationally as D+5.

The Queen died on Thursday, September 8, but because the announcement came relatively late - around 6.30pm - plans have moved by a day to allow time for the complex arrangements to be made.

The Queen's lying in state at Westminster Hall will therefore begin on Wednesday, September 14.

There will first be a ceremonial procession through London, taking in The Mall, Horse Guards, Whitehall, Parliament Square, and New Palace Yard.

After the coffin's arrival at Westminster Hall, the Archbishop of Canterbury will conduct a short service, which will be attended by members of the royal family.

Once that service ends, there will be the opportunity for politicians and dignitaries to pay their respects to the Queen.

Shortly afterwards, Westminster Hall will be opened to the public. Hundreds of thousands of people will file past the coffin on its catafalque and pay their respects, as they did for the Queen Mother's lying in state in 2002.

Senior royals are also expected to pay their own tribute, standing guard at some stage around the coffin in a tradition known as the Vigil of the Princes.

The Queen will lie in state for four clear days, until the morning of her funeral.

Ailidh Sat 10-Sept-22 20:54:58

Queen Elizabeth II: A day-by-day guide from now to the funeral www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62861617

is very informative about the next few days.

Elegran Sat 10-Sept-22 20:49:24

Kim19

Anyone know the exact date and timings of HM Queen's lying in state in St Giles Cathedral please?

From the "Edinburgh News" dated Friday 9th Sept -
"It has been reported that members of the public will be allowed into St Giles’ Catherdral to file past the coffin when it resides there for 24 hours in about three days’ time."

sodapop Sat 10-Sept-22 20:39:29

I agree Merlotgran Kate I thought pointedly ignored Meghan although William did chat to Harry. At least the four of them were there together which is a start.

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Sept-22 20:30:31

It has made me reminisce about my parents and grandparents (whom I didn't really know) and stories my mother told me. That was one I do remember.
I think most parents would wish for their children to remain in friendly relationships with each other, if they have more than one child, and to the rest of their family.

Fleurpepper Sat 10-Sept-22 20:25:12

Callistemon21

Perhaps the Queen's last wishes for the family were the same as those of my Granny (who I do not remember, unfortunately)

"Be kind to one another"

Indeed, my two brothers are very different, and they fell out about 10 years before my mum died. She left a letter asking her sons to try their hardest to reconcile their differences and be kind to each other. All conjecture, but maybe The Queen did the same, either in writing or orally. As any loving mother and grand-mother would.

volver Sat 10-Sept-22 20:24:39

You forget that William and Katherine lived on Anglesey for many years before their marriage

Were they living in sin? ?

Sorry, back to the purpose of the thread. Thoughts about the late Queen.

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Sept-22 20:23:38

merlotgran

^How useful and modern. (sarcasm emoji)^

Has anybody asked the Welsh?

‘Ey oop’ The Queen’s been dead three days.

The gloves are off! ?

Best ignored really, merlotgran
Indulging makes it worse.

Wait for "I'm reporting your post" ?

volver Sat 10-Sept-22 20:22:14

merlotgran

^How useful and modern. (sarcasm emoji)^

Has anybody asked the Welsh?

‘Ey oop’ The Queen’s been dead three days.

The gloves are off! ?

2 days.

Perhaps you should mention that to the people intent on having a go at Public Enemy Number 1.

volver Sat 10-Sept-22 20:21:14

The sarcasm was all mine, Callistemon

merlotgran Sat 10-Sept-22 20:20:55

How useful and modern. (sarcasm emoji)

Has anybody asked the Welsh?

‘Ey oop’ The Queen’s been dead three days.

The gloves are off! ?

volver Sat 10-Sept-22 20:20:28

Pantglas2

“Has anybody asked the Welsh?“ volver

What, all of ‘em? Not another bluddy referendum!

You forget that William and Katherine lived on Anglesey for many years before their marriage and were very well thought of for the way they conducted themselves. No media interviews, moaning about stuff...

I hadn't forgotten. I'm not sure I ever knew. ?

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Sept-22 20:18:58

You asked a question and I answered in good faith, volver

Why the sarcasm emoji?
Or can't you help it?

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Sept-22 20:17:40

What, all of ‘em? Not another bluddy referendum !

What about those of us who were born in England but spent over half of their lives in Wales?
Are we allowed to vote?

Pantglas2 Sat 10-Sept-22 20:14:18

“Has anybody asked the Welsh?“ volver

What, all of ‘em? Not another bluddy referendum!

You forget that William and Katherine lived on Anglesey for many years before their marriage and were very well thought of for the way they conducted themselves. No media interviews, moaning about stuff...

volver Sat 10-Sept-22 20:09:09

Callistemon21

^Maybe somebody can explain to this confused Republican. Now that she is Princess of Wales, what is Kate's new role? What are her new responsibilities?^

I think it's rather like being eg Mrs Jones in a way.
Supporting each other in their work.

Supporting the Prince of Wales in his role, as he may take on some of his father's charitable causes.
Working with charities, continuing with those they already set up and strengthening connections with Wales?
Deciding which charities she may like to support in her own right, perhaps taking up some of those which were dear to the last Princess of Wales?

Will there be a ceremony I wonder.

How useful and modern. (sarcasm emoji)

Has anybody asked the Welsh?

merlotgran Sat 10-Sept-22 20:07:45

remember the abdication?

Without Wallis Simpson we wouldn’t have had the Queen.

Sometimes rigid protocol gets it right.