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What's the point of a Prince of Wales?

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volver Sun 11-Sept-22 09:42:53

I believe the Prince of Wales is basically the top bod in the hierarchy in Wales and has been an Englishman since the 14th Century. I understand it is an expression of the rule of the English over the Welsh.

I have googled the role of the Prince and Princess of Wales and it appears to be to visit as many places in the country as possible and learn to speak Welsh. Personally I find the conferring of titles such as this on Royals a patronising anachronism, having once had to explain to a French person that the Duke of Edinburgh didn't really run Edinburgh.

What do Welsh people think about the whole thing?

Anniebach Mon 12-Sept-22 10:56:08

No comparison between the public reaction following the deaths of the Queen and Diana, the latter was embarrassing hysteria No comparison between the public reaction following the death of the Queen and Diana, the latter was embarrassing hysteria ,

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 12-Sept-22 10:00:12

I’m a monarchist but don’t ‘adore and worship’ the monarch or anyone else on this earth, nor am I subservient to anybody. You have a peculiar turn of phrase and strange ideas Rowantree. As for the tv, use the off button as I do.

NotSpaghetti Mon 12-Sept-22 09:39:36

Rowantree

There's adoration and worship wall-to-wall on the media. People distraught as if the woman was a family member or close friend. She wasn't. Mass hysteria IMO.

These were my feelings after the death of the Princess of Wales.
I still don't "get" what that was all about to be honest.

Lesley60 Mon 12-Sept-22 04:00:42

I’m Welsh and I don’t see the point of having an English Prince of Wales, or at least let the Welsh vote on it. (No offence to the English)
I think in these modern times we don’t need all these dukes and duchess’s either.

Spice101 Mon 12-Sept-22 02:38:05

Do we really know that the matter has not already been discussed with the Welsh powers that be?

Mollygo Sun 11-Sept-22 23:10:04

Adoration, worship, distraught, strange language to use. I haven’t seen that.
Evidently people are not allowed to express their sorrow in ways you don’t like. Fortunately they’ll never have to feel the burden of your disapproval.

Rowantree Sun 11-Sept-22 23:07:02

Oh....and 'give it a rest' is what I sigh every time I switch on the news for the last few days. It's as if nothing else mattered .

Rowantree Sun 11-Sept-22 22:59:13

There's adoration and worship wall-to-wall on the media. People distraught as if the woman was a family member or close friend. She wasn't. Mass hysteria IMO.

Mollygo Sun 11-Sept-22 22:45:29

Strange language Rowantree. Who has said they “adore and worship” them?
Humiliating is seeing the appalling behaviour of people who give the country a bad name by being nasty about a person who has died, and towards a family who has lost a loved one.
Ridiculous is your opinion which you are entitled to have.
If all the people of Wales rise up in rebellion against having a “Prince of Wales” then I guess the the appointment would be discarded. I can’t speak for all the Welsh people so I don’t know their feelings.
I suspect that what will happen is, as with the RF, opinions will range from happy to have them there, indifferent as to whether they are there or not or totally anti and those opinions will continue to be expressed on GN, MN, Twitter etc. etc.

Rowantree Sun 11-Sept-22 22:38:13

We aren't in North Korea, though sometimes I wonder....

Rowantree Sun 11-Sept-22 22:37:30

No, I can't. Why should I?

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Sept-22 22:29:37

Oh, can you not just wait at least until after the funeral, Rowantree?

Rowantree Sun 11-Sept-22 22:25:37

I'm totally nauseated by the lot of them. Time to go, Windsors! Definitely a remnant of a feudal past and I am NOT a subject but a citizen, thanks. Why do so many people want a rich family to adore and worship? Why do they love being subservient? I find the whole set up humiliating and ridiculous.

Elegran Sun 11-Sept-22 21:00:07

Callistemon21

^born 1284. at Caernarfon Castle^
He was Welsh, then.

Isn't there a story that the Welsh wanted a Prince of Wales who was born in Wales and spoke no English? So Edward replied that if he gave them a Prince born in Wales and speaking no English would they accept him? Cue cheers from the Welsh - so he produced his baby son.

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Sept-22 20:18:34

You haven't heard it volver

It's enough to .....

Grayling1 Sun 11-Sept-22 20:07:54

Volvergrin gringrin

volver Sun 11-Sept-22 20:05:29

Nothing to do with your voice, Call wink

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Sept-22 20:03:50

I know, my voice is terrible ?

volver Sun 11-Sept-22 20:00:35

Callistemon21

tickingbird

I think William is now also Lord of the Isles. Dearie me.

How delightful. Good for William. Love it grin

I think William is now also Lord of the Isles. Dearie me

When I see this post all I seem to do is burst into song! Fingers in ears everyone ?

Speed, bonnie boat, like a bird on the wing,
Onward! the sailors cry;
Carry the lad that's born to be king
Over the sea to Skye.

Loud the winds howl, loud the waves roar,
Thunderclaps rend the air;
Baffled, our foes stand by the shore,
Follow they will not dare.

Sung with great gusto at my English primary school.

Somerled is birlinn in his grave.

Joke for the Scottish grans wink

volver Sun 11-Sept-22 19:57:44

Soroptimum

I am Welsh. I got into trouble when I took the day off school in 1969 to watch Charles’s investiture. I think it’s fantastic that we have a new Prince.
As an aside, I’ve had enough of Scotland and how much the Queen loved Balmoral.

That's understandable.

I'm a bit fed up of hearing about her "beloved Balmoral" as well. And tonight I learnt from Countryfile that she was a champion of the rights of capercaillies. Who knew.

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Sept-22 19:51:03

tickingbird

^I think William is now also Lord of the Isles. Dearie me.^

How delightful. Good for William. Love it grin

I think William is now also Lord of the Isles. Dearie me

When I see this post all I seem to do is burst into song! Fingers in ears everyone ?

Speed, bonnie boat, like a bird on the wing,
Onward! the sailors cry;
Carry the lad that's born to be king
Over the sea to Skye.

Loud the winds howl, loud the waves roar,
Thunderclaps rend the air;
Baffled, our foes stand by the shore,
Follow they will not dare.

Sung with great gusto at my English primary school.

Callistemon21 Sun 11-Sept-22 19:46:40

Barmeyoldbat

Being Welsh I hate it

Do you live in Wales Barmeyoldbat?

Just curious

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 11-Sept-22 19:12:13

Why do you hate it? My daughter in law is Welsh and doesn't 'hate it'.

Barmeyoldbat Sun 11-Sept-22 19:00:55

Being Welsh I hate it

Soroptimum Sun 11-Sept-22 18:49:53

I am Welsh. I got into trouble when I took the day off school in 1969 to watch Charles’s investiture. I think it’s fantastic that we have a new Prince.
As an aside, I’ve had enough of Scotland and how much the Queen loved Balmoral.