How soon before the next step to privatising the state schools?

MaizieD

Mollygo

That’s OK. Impressions can differ and we certainly weren’t well funded. I had a TA for 1 afternoon a week which was all our school could afford, and I was on the Governing body, so I saw the finances, so obviously my opinion differs.

I was an actual TA, employed, along with 5 more, as a result of Labour's funding increases and I was on the Governing body for most of the time I worked there. I sawthe finances too.

Just saying

Silly me...... wrong quote got attached to my comment on understanding the finances!

DaisyAnne

*Doodledog*, I can see no proof that shows that "one of the reasons that the 2-tier system is iniquitous is that because the rich and influential tend to use private schools they have (at best) no vested interest in improving state ones". Some do, some don't. What percentage of those sending their children to state schools show any interest in the school outside that connected to their own children?

This is othering. I expect it from the right. I did not expect it from the left. It is no different to identifying a group of people who were seen as rich but often were not, as being the reason for the downfall of a country's economy.

The issue is with the state and the issue with the state lies clearly with the voters. I will, after this thread, probably never vote Labour again. I wasn't, as some were, put off by Corbyn's extremes as the party seemed to resile from those, but I am put off by the far left on GN. Communism is when everything is owned and run by the state. This is what you are demanding for education.

I have no idea how many people use a private school but get involved in state ones. How would I know that? I can't imagine many parents feeling happy about someone having decision-making powers in their children's school when they don't use it for their own children though.

The left/right insults are tired, and show a woeful lack of understanding of what the two things mean, and a strange assumption that people's views are either one or the other. It happens a lot on here. I couldn't care less how you vote - I'm not recruiting for any party, but I can assure you that however my political allegiances could be described, I am not a communist .

This is supposedly a discussion, not a fight to the death, and it would be a lot more interesting if we could actually discuss things. Others have left this thread because of your condescending attitude, and I am going to do the same.

What is more condescending than thinking you can tell people they cannot pay to educate their children?

Will you allow them to pay for medical treatment for those children if they feel suitable treatment is not available on the NHS? Will you allow them to rent from a private owner or even buy their home privately or will you stop that in order that they take more notice of Council House building - which would currently, in many areas, be unable to offer them decent housing. These "others" must be brought down to the lowest we have on offer apparently, then they will feel grateful and help. I don't see it.

So far in the past few posts both you and Maizie have decided attacking me personally is the answer. There is obviously no discussion unless I agree that some people have to be stopped from doing something with their money that is perfectly - at the moment and in the majority of countries - legal.

By the way Doodledog I do know you have stopped actually reading the posts I write but, just for clarification, I did not ask "how many people use a private school but get involved in state ones." I asked, "What percentage of those sending their children to state schools show any interest in the school outside that connected to their own children?"

Perhaps you have got hold of the wrong end of more than one stick.

What is more condescending than thinking you can tell people they cannot pay to educate their children?

Telling them they are too poor to expect a proper education for their children.

So when did you do that Volver? I certainly haven't and wouldn't. Have you read the OP?

I don't know about privatising state schools... this is like being in the playground...

I didn't do it. You did it. A big boy did it and ran away.

what does the dishwasher comment mean?

I am no longer taking part in the 'debate', but want to say that I have not made personal remarks of any kind. Disagreeing with someone is not the same as attacking them, and I have not done that either.

I don't think calling me condescending was an attack against the argument Doodledog.