Some of the comments made by Tory MPs in the last few days are, IMO, extremely worrying. I think they now believe they have free rein to decimate our public services. They also show a disregard for anyone who is struggling. I have always known that this is their ethos, but there appears to have been a shift in recent days (since KK’s budget) - they have now stopped sugar coating their disdain. They appear to be openly telling us ‘you’re stuffed, and we don’t give a shit - don’t expect any help from the state’.
Comments from MPs:
‘Britain has lived in a “fool’s paradise” for too long and must reduce public spending to help to fund the government’s £45bn worth of tax cuts, a senior cabinet minister has warned’
Simon Clarke MP, in the Times
‘When people get their energy bills they can either cut their consumption or earn more money; get a higher paid job. That is the governments view’.
Jake Berry, MP in the Times.
Well we all know where we stand now don’t we!
I hope patriotic Tory MPs will ignore the fruitcakes in their midst and get rid of Truss asap. She is a serious liability for all of us (including the idiots who voted for her).
I’d like to see a list of which MPs weren’t at the conference, I bet there were lots.
Then went off on holiday. That’s what DH told me he’d read in the Times ( I need to read it myself).
I'd been wondering where he was. He wasn't at the Conference.
Johnson is currently making she’d loads of money giving speeches in America. What about his constituents? He is still an MP isn’t he?
Daisymae
Braverman also said in an interview that people on benefits 'need more stick'. Well I guess that just about says it all really.
This is a Tory chestnut. It persists because there is an element of truth in it.
But, I would love to know if benefit 'scroungers' (I use the word 'scroungers' - because though not explicitly stated, it is the implication) exist in any economically significant numbers.
- and, will benefit cuts take us out of the cost-of-living crisis? I don't think so.
The largest portion of welfare-spend is on state pensions.
Braverman also said in an interview that people on benefits 'need more stick'. Well I guess that just about says it all really.
MOnica
I am more optimistic than you Dickens I think the current Conservative party has gone so far to the right and there is such a gap between what the country - and the party's members actually want that, as we are already seeing in the polls, the gap between aspiration (the government) and reality (the electorate) is such, that with a bit of luck we should see, I am not going to say a Labour landslide, because polls get closer as elections get nearer, but enough of a movement from one party from another that they are out of power for at least 2 parliaments.
We sleep-walked into Brexit. Brexit, which is all part of the plan. Hog-tied to Europe with all its pesky rules and regulations hindered the extreme Right. It was presented to the electorate in such a way as to convince that it was in our best interests - I'm not going to emphasise all the 'advantages' that the British public (or the Leave contingent part of it) were promised, we all know them off by heart. The point is, enough people fell for it.
Presented in the right way - armed officers, the right to carry arms, and certainly Capital Punishment (have you read the howls for its return on SM recently?) could be a vote-winner. There is already a 'war' on woke, on the 'Leftie' liberals, and a firm conviction that Labour cannot manage the economy... "I would vote for Labour, but...
Perhaps I spend too much time on social media (well, I do, I know that) but I'm both fascinated and appalled in equal measures at the febrile observations that follow-on from political news articles. There's a huge consensus of opinion that the economy is floundering simply because we are overrun with "illegals" who are being housed in 5 * hotels, and unemployed benefit claimants who are gaming the system. How difficult would it be to convince such individuals that the path to a 'Great Britain' can be laid by cutting public spending (unspecified of course) and encouraging innovators and entrepreneurs to invest in a low-tax, low-wage economy? It just needs the right spin. The same spin that was put on Brexit, and post-Brexit ("build back better", "levelling up", etc).
It's the 'boiling-frog' syndrome, we won't know we're being boiled alive until it's too late.
I wish I had your optimism. Sure, there is resistance - of which the RW is very aware and will take steps to counteract with the appropriate slurs and slogans. But with our FPTP electoral system, it only requires a sufficient number of people to vote in the 'right' way...
They are utterly pathetic
"People know that when their bills arrive, they can either cut their consumption or they can get a higher salary, higher wages, go out there and get that new job"
Jake Berry, Conservative Party Chairman
I still just can't believe the naivety of this, never mind the complete lack of political savvyness! ?
They are scared
Just listened to another speech. This time making fun of ‘lefties’. So many speeches are getting cheap laughs by making fun of lefties, The Guardian, lawyers, the LibDems etc. They really have sunk so low.
M0nica
MaizieD I was wrong, I was unaware of the extent of the US funding or the full range of people involved.
I would still say 25 Tufton Street has been known and influential for years. I would however revise my comment about nothing secret or unknown about it
The book I am reading is an absolute eye-opener.
?? good for you
MaizieD I was wrong, I was unaware of the extent of the US funding or the full range of people involved.
I would still say 25 Tufton Street has been known and influential for years. I would however revise my comment about nothing secret or unknown about it
The book I am reading is an absolute eye-opener.
I am more optimistic than you Dickens I think the current Conservative party has gone so far to the right and there is such a gap between what the country - and the party's members actually want that, as we are already seeing in the polls, the gap between aspiration (the government) and reality (the electorate) is such, that with a bit of luck we should see, I am not going to say a Labour landslide, because polls get closer as elections get nearer, but enough of a movement from one party from another that they are out of power for at least 2 parliaments.
Gosh, MOnica. Are you revising this opinion that you posted about 10 days ago?
Gosh you are beginning to sound like American Conspiracy theorists. 25 Tufton Street has been known and influentiaal for years, nothing secret or unknown about it.
You made it sound quite harmless then...
MOnica
The Conservative party has been groomed and cultivated for more than 20 years by the think tanks of Tufton Street and environs. These organisations are so set up that they do not have to reveal their funding, but forensic investigation has shown they are primarily extreme rightwing organisations and individuals in the USA.Their aim is as near to a pure market economy as they can get. An economy with few regulations and little social support.
Economists and others have written about what is termed "cut-throat Capitalism" as favoured by the USA, versus the European version, which is touted as "cuddly-Capitalism". The former is deemed to be superior because it produces your innovators and entrepreneurs - Bill Gates, et al. The latter less efficient because it recognises or believes that a society functions best if its citizens' welfare is catered for with public services and a safety-net. Interestingly, I can immediately list at least 10 European innovators some of whom we may not have heard about but whose products and services we use daily.
I know which type of Capitalism I prefer. And it's not the dog-eat-dog one.
I won't be around to see it, but I believe we will ultimately become the 51st State. Our Police will be routinely armed - and possibly our citizens will become gun-owning enthusiasts (it's a very lucrative market). There will be no NHS, just a very basic net to catch the most unfortunate, to prevent them dying on the street, as it were. Our infrastructure will crumble - have you seen the state of some of the roads and bridges in the US? The Left will be seen as Communists, unpatriotic and un-British. And the Death Penalty (there's a lot of agitation for it to be re-introduced at this moment) might well become a sentencing option. And of course, 'wimmin' will be put back in their place I've no doubt.
Labour are on 61% in red wall seats.
MawtheMerrier
Truss is achieving something I thought impossible up to now - she is making Boris look good (well, less bad)
And the new Home Secretary is out-Prit-ing Priti Patel.
Can it get any worse?
Yes. Kemi Badenoch could be PM.
Truss is achieving something I thought impossible up to now - she is making Boris look good (well, less bad)
And the new Home Secretary is out-Prit-ing Priti Patel.
Can it get any worse?
I am currently reading 'Democracy for Sale' by Peter Geoghegan.
The Conservative party has been groomed and cultivated for more than 20 years by the think tanks of Tufton Street and environs. These organisations are so set up that they do not have to reveal their funding, but forensic investigation has shown they are primarily extreme rightwing organisations and individuals in the USA.Their aim is as near to a pure market economy as they can get. An economy with few regulations and little social support.
What the Stepford wives (male and female) of the Conservative party have not realised is that in responding to the blandishments of these organisations, and if they succeed in turning the UK into a low tax, low regulation, low social support country. It will be the UK economy that is shafted and America that creams off the profit.
Either way, it is an illusion to think that any of this is what those who vote Conservative really want or know they are voting for when they vote Conservative.
Most of the Conservative party in Westminster are like cult members, supporting a set of beliefs promulgated and financed from overseas, and to which the broader Conservative party is unaware of.
I have been taken aback by this book because I have heard of almost all the people they mention as being involved in these activities. The big American corporations and the billionaires supporting them, the names of the think tanks, and the names of those who have worked for them and become MPs themselves and those others who suport them.
It is available on Kindle and is free if you have Kindle Unlimited.
It all feeds back to brexit. the biggest con in history.
Whitewavemark2
Chris Phipps Treasury Minister.
Sorry to be so long getting back.
Other mad Tories have mentioned it as well, particularly at the time of Brexit, but it looks as if it is being actively considered.
Wonder how they will sell it?
www.cityam.com/minister-says-rees-mogg-wants-to-ditch-all-business-regulations-for-smes/
J-RM's going to let us know...
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