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Terrible events in Iran by brutal police

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Prentice Thu 06-Oct-22 16:06:00

It is so hard reading about teenage girls and young women being abused, beaten and murdered by the police in Iran.
Their poor families being threatened and forced to lie on national tv there.
These brutal men may at last have found that public opinion is really against them there now, they have gone too far.
I hope it will be a catalyst for change in Iran.

Jaberwok Fri 07-Oct-22 09:11:07

I think it was Angela Rippon who was the first female news reader in 1975, I think! Yes its true women still tend to be given a hard time in some areas. Mrs May, because she was a woman? Perhaps! Mrs Thatcher? definitely. Ms Truss? probably. However, compared to some other countries we in this country are extremely fortunate, but hopefully in time, what sex you are, what colour you are, what orientation you are simply won't be an issue that anyone discusses any more, as it will have ceased to be an issue. Content of character will be the issue, nothing else. Meanwhile we must do all we can to support all persecuted people, men and women, the Uyghurs and other ethnic Turkic Muslims come particularly to mind. The world seems very unconcerned about these poor souls.

Prentice Fri 07-Oct-22 09:21:41

Ethnic minorities in some countries are treated terribly, the Uyghur people in China particularly so, and often Christians there too.
There have been some reports that I wish I had not read, one concerned a young disabled boy and it is hard to get out of my head.
Women and their rights seem to be under threat in so many places.

Aveline Fri 07-Oct-22 11:18:16

Female newsreaders on BBC and ITV in the 50s.
Actually I was more struck by the bravery of an older lady photographed in Iran tearing off her hijab to reveal white hair. How difficult her life must have been and how that must have made it do much harder for her to be do brave.

Jaberwok Fri 07-Oct-22 12:19:00

We had a TV in 1949. My stepfather was a radio ham and built our first one at that time . It could be a bit fuzzy,but I remember Ice skating and Muffin the Mule. Can't find any evidence of lady newsreaders at this time. There was a young woman who presented a children's programme in the mid 50's called Jennifer. Apparently I wanted to be her when I grew up, but apart from her? Who were they? Perhaps their names have fallen into obscurity that's why they're not appearing in any search.

Namsnanny Fri 07-Oct-22 12:51:15

MerylStreep

Chapeau
The video I watched showed these women trying to strip the woman they were attacking. If it wasn’t so sick it would be laughable ?
The morality police trying to strip a woman on a public street in front of men !!! You couldn’t make it up.

This is where indoctrination leads everyone, no matter which sex or religion
or creed or colour, eventually.

Aveline Fri 07-Oct-22 13:22:12

I just googled earliest female newsreaders! Several were noted.

Grantanow Fri 07-Oct-22 13:26:44

They are still in their Middle Ages. It will probably take about 1400 years for them to shake off religion. That's about the length of time it took Europe to escape from dogmatic Catholicism and witch burning though there are worrying signs of religion becoming political in the US.

Jaberwok Fri 07-Oct-22 16:08:58

Yes you're right, there were a couple of newsreaders in the early days, Nan Winton for the BBC. She apparently wasn't acceptable for what ever reason, and it wasn't till 1975 that the BBC agreed that Angela Rippon was acceptable. ITV did a bit better with Barbara Mandell in 1955 who did appear quite often and was the first permanent woman newsreader to broadcast on the News at 10 in 1967. Not a ringing endorsement but better than the Beeb!

growstuff Sat 08-Oct-22 04:02:27

I am awestruck about what the young women - and not only women - in Iran are doing.

Katie59 Sat 08-Oct-22 09:26:22

While Iran is a male dominated society that is isolated from the west nothing is going to change, like Afghanistan and a few others we have no influence, when a woman has a husband or brothers in the same house there is little alternative for most.

If these countries become open and secular then it will change.

Aveline Sat 08-Oct-22 11:45:45

Looks like quite a wind of change is blowing through Iran. The days of power of the ayatollahs might be numbered. Fingers crossed. This is 2022 not 1022!

MayBee70 Sun 09-Oct-22 13:43:37

Much as I agree with the criticism of the treatment of women in Iran I don’t think there has been widespread condemnation and publicity given to what’s happening to women in Afghanistan since the west pulled out and let the Taliban rule the country. We let down the Afghan people so badly sad

nadateturbe Tue 11-Oct-22 14:17:04

Let us try and be non aggressive to each other on this matter.

Agree

Prentice Tue 11-Oct-22 15:46:43

Good to see the State tv hacked, if only for a few seconds, in support of all the people murdered in Iran by the so called security or morality police.
Yes Maybee70 I agree with your comment.

Glorianny Tue 11-Oct-22 16:11:53

So pleased someone has commented that it isn't only men who are involved in the police actions. A friend who lived in Iran said that the people who really supervise and administer punishment to women not wearing the hijab are the women police and they can be very violent. Religious fundamentalism has never been purely a male preserve.