Camilla to be crowned.

faye17

Volver....
Would it not be about what made it GREAT in the first place

Great Britain was first called Great, or Big, Britain to distinguish it from little Brittany, which was, and still is, Bretagne in French, and spoke Breton, (which is actually an Insular Celtic language, meaning it originated in the British Isles and is related to Welsh and Cornish and more distantly to Manx, Scottish and Irish Gaelic. It was taken over to what is now France by Britons who migrated to the area in the Middle Ages.)

If its geographical why does it not include the island of Ireland?

faye17

If its geographical why does it not include the island of Ireland?

Because Ireland is....erm.... Ireland. ?

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Anniebach

Shock, horror, she had sex before marriage, unlike Diana who
for some reason knew she had to keep herself tidy, wonder why

I wouldn’t like anyone to speak about my family like this.

Thankyou Elegran, very informative post

By 'erm' do you mean Independent politically Volver?

No, sorry faye17. The island of Ireland is just Ireland. It just sounded daft to me as I wrote it!

It's all geographical, none of it political.

The British Isles includes the island of Ireland. Geographically. Not politically.

Volver I think the people of the Republic of Ireland would very much beg to differ that the island of Ireland is a British isle geographically or otherwise.
At all events and before someone tells me to start another thread as this one is about the coronation of Camilla, I think she will be a most fitting queen for Charles in continuing the traditions of GREAT Britain

Oh FGS "faye17". I'm trying to be "nice" but the island of Ireland is in the British Isles, whether you like it or not.

And Britain ain't "Great", not from where I'm sitting.

Actually, after I posted, I thought of this...

Is it a misappropriation of the concept of Great Britain that makes somebody think that the island of Ireland isn't in the British Isles? Britain/Great Britain/British Isles even Pritanī if you like, as actual names for the geographic entities that make up bits of this archipelago we live on. But has there been a move towards having people think that "Britain" is somehow a superior nation that includes England and all it has "conquered"?

Just musing....

Personally I have nothing against Camilla, and as she is the King's Wife then she should be crowned.
But!!! There is always a but!! I can also see why people think she shouldn't be. I know Diana and Charles were divorced, but Camilla and Charles were having an affair long before that, in fact before Charles and Diana married. The only reason he married Diana was to produce heirs to the throne. He didn't love her. Diana knew this soon after getting married. She was totally in love with Charles, and the whole threesome thing made her ill. That I believe was very wrong and I didn't support Charles and Camilla at all back then. I can also understand how it has affected Harry, as he is a very emotional person. William is a totally different character and coped better when Diana died and has accepted and moved on from the past. It has been 25 years since her death, and yes, move on, times change, but I for one will never forget Diana. She should have been our Queen.

It is an island, and it is one of the islands that collectively are known as the British isles. Not the British Isles as a political name for a country, but the British isles as a description of where the whole group is situated, whatever their political affiliations.

volver is correct, the British Isles includes Ireland. Geographical fact. Great Britain does not include Ireland, but British Isles does!

Willowbreeze 59 I believe Diana will forever be the queen of decent people's hearts
The rest is egoism, pomp and entitlement

WillowBreeze William probably appeared to cope better than Harry because he was a little older, and also he met his future wife quite early and formed a very stable relationship with her and her family.
Harry was younger, he was the spare and it has been suggested that he is jealous of William for that reason, and he didn’t form a stable relationship with a girlfriend/woman until he was much older.

Volver I always find you to be nice
Your posts are often deemed controversial on GN but I'm always open to new/different ideas and happy to learn something new

Thank you faye17

I really don’t believe Diana was in love with Charles, she adored her father and he wanted her older sister to marry Charles, she gave an interview to the press so end of that,
next on the list was Diana who knew she had to keep herself clean, I am quoting her.

Camilla loved and married Parker Bowles. He had affairs.

If Charles was so in love with Camilla in 1970 and continued the affair why Kanga Tyron ?

Maddyone...
Or could it possibly be that Harry has clearer insight into the whole situation and subsequently values his own mental health above all else?

volver

Actually, after I posted, I thought of this...

Is it a misappropriation of the concept of Great Britain that makes somebody think that the island of Ireland isn't in the British Isles? Britain/Great Britain/British Isles even Pritanī if you like, as actual names for the geographic entities that make up bits of this archipelago we live on. But has there been a move towards having people think that "Britain" is somehow a superior nation that includes England and all it has "conquered"?

Just musing....
I often muse on that thought too Volver
...lands and riches, even whole peoples misappropriated - it may add some clarity as to why I deem Camilla the perfect British queen

maddyone

WillowBreeze William probably appeared to cope better than Harry because he was a little older, and also he met his future wife quite early and formed a very stable relationship with her and her family.
Harry was younger, he was the spare and it has been suggested that he is jealous of William for that reason, and he didn’t form a stable relationship with a girlfriend/woman until he was much older.

Or maybe William just copes with things better. In a similar situation, I have learned to push all my resentments away (I appreciate it isn't the healthiest way to be) and lead a more balanced life. My sister, younger, has been terribly affected and still struggles with coming to terms over what we went through. Every relationship is blighted; she sees things as much more dramatic and far reaching than I do. I don't think it helps to be the spare and having everything devoted to the chosen one though.

Didnt Kanga come to a sad and rather tragic end after a nasty accident? I remember feeling sorry for her.

She had very poor health, yes had a nasty accident, Fell out of
a window when in rehab, it left her a paraplegic poor woman,
died so young

A bit before my time, but I have just had a Google, and it says that her affair with Charles "unhinged her mind".

Mind you, it was a daily mail article I clicked on.

Of course she should be.A wonderful normal natural human being who doesn't want to take centre stage.Just the person King Charles needs by his side.Not all first marriages are made in heaven.That is reality of life.